RE "Priorities and time scale, exactly. It just means people settle down later in life": and they have fewer kids, less energy to raise them, they barely know or feel attachment to their grandparents, etc.

you end up making your mating selection and number of kids based on the time crunch of her fertility.

@Frog here's an hypothesis. 70% divorce rate comes from people who have no idea what they are doing or what they want or how to communicate it properly. I may very well be wrong, but I see people settling down later in life as a factor for stronger marriages on the long run.

less energy is just weak ass people excuses because they took the health they started with in their youth for granted (generalizing)

Divorce rate is because people are selfish

if you maintain your body you keep your energy

They think marriage is all about themselves

Marriage is about sacrifice

Like Matt said, if one settles too soon, you may not know what you want. Sure you could, perhaps, make it work for your lifetime after a lot of work, but you might very well be miserable for a lifetime

partially, but when you have your first kid at around 30, you're 45 by the time it's a teenager.

But Sal. They fell out of love...or some bullshit excuse

One must be willing to sacrifice in order to have a successful marriage

Romance is weak

Sacrifice is strong

@Arn I’d agree with this. A fair number of people have gotten married with someone just because that is what you were supposed to do, much like going college.

say your kid waits until _they're_ 30 to have kids and base case scenario you're 60 when your grandchild is born and 75 when it's 15.

that's _insane_.

and that's for the _first_ kid.

Younger is better because the woman’s eggs are fresher.

@newtradist That is EXACTLY my story. I'm the first of my siblings and my mother had me at 38

younger women older men seems to be the natural way

had a stay at home dad as well!

i'm sorry that this is personal now, but i think that's unfortunate, man.

So get married to someone with a young body but an older mind

I'm turning alright so far!

Men are the head of the household

well... alright considering im talking to strangers on discord at 11pm 😉

You know you love us.

So would it stand to reason that the head of the household ought to be staying at home?

waiting incentives fewer children, discourages strong bonds with your grandparents, risks your baby's health and the safety of your wife in childbirth.

The home is the woman’s domain

no it doesn't, @SteelandSouls. there's a difference between the 'head of the household' and the person most directly responsible for the very young child. we're biologically predisposed to traditional gender roles.

The wife submits to the husband and the husband sacrifices himself for his wife

I disagree, The home is whoever want to rule it domain

freedom of choice

The children must obey and respect the parents

Would a traditional gender role apply to the animal kingdom as well where lions sleep in the den while the lioness' go on the hunt?

The home must have order.

we're humans, dude.

completely different animal (pun intended), and, if you believe in it, evolutionary track.

Not what I asked though