Science as a search for meaning is pointless

well grand ideological might be a bit more apt

I agree, which is why I'm religious 😄

Science is a tool for explaining phenomena

it's a means not an end

science isn't a science it's an art 😄

The search for meaning doesn't have a method. It's not really method based at all

The notion of a blueprint or external source for it is wrongheaded

my problem is when people argue that science is truth.

it has some method or it wouldn't work

science is an opinion on the truth with good evidence, but like any opinion it can be wrong.

Science is a method by which one obtains truth, or the closest thing to it

and any opinion based system is vulnerable to huxters and liars.

best approximation of truth

Opinion is misleading

A reliable scientific conclusion is reproducible, either via calculation or experimentation

Even a repeated experiment is often highly conjecture based.

and relies on assumptions that may or may not be true.

Socialism fails the scientific standard everytime

for example you can repeat a lot of 'experiments' that work, but they work for reasons that DO NOT have to do with what you're proving.

which makes it no more than dogma

Yeah, the approach of observation isn't some clean-slate methodology. You always go into everything having to make assumptions

^^^^

even if its 'my eyes work;

That's why you challenge and retest

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and then through process of elimination reducing down the assumptions

That's the point behind the methodology

yes, but the process of challenge and retest isn't infalable either. For as much shit as we give the earth-centered view of the universe, they had mathematical proofs that it worked.

they just didn't have all the data until modern telescopes were built

and now we know there's no such thing as the sun

it's just the back of the moon

LOL

its turtles all the way down

you sure? I could have sword I saw a tortoise

But that's the thing. It's a model built on the assumption that things could be wrong, with the inclusion of new information going forward

yes and no, imagine how much shit would go down if something fundamental like relativity were disproven?

The difference between that and the Bible is that the only way to deal with "oh, it would be impossible for the earth to flood and for 2 of every animal to get onto a boat" is to handwave

Or if someone proved that gender is binary 😛

It wouldn't be entirely disproven

It might be that some aspect of it is incorrect, but it has predictive capability in reproducible environments