Message from @Lord Zedd
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Science is a method by which one obtains truth, or the closest thing to it
and any opinion based system is vulnerable to huxters and liars.
best approximation of truth
Opinion is misleading
A reliable scientific conclusion is reproducible, either via calculation or experimentation
Even a repeated experiment is often highly conjecture based.
and relies on assumptions that may or may not be true.
Socialism fails the scientific standard everytime
for example you can repeat a lot of 'experiments' that work, but they work for reasons that DO NOT have to do with what you're proving.
which makes it no more than dogma
Yeah, the approach of observation isn't some clean-slate methodology. You always go into everything having to make assumptions
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even if its 'my eyes work;
That's why you challenge and retest
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and then through process of elimination reducing down the assumptions
That's the point behind the methodology
yes, but the process of challenge and retest isn't infalable either. For as much shit as we give the earth-centered view of the universe, they had mathematical proofs that it worked.
they just didn't have all the data until modern telescopes were built
and now we know there's no such thing as the sun
LOL
its turtles all the way down
you sure? I could have sword I saw a tortoise
But that's the thing. It's a model built on the assumption that things could be wrong, with the inclusion of new information going forward
yes and no, imagine how much shit would go down if something fundamental like relativity were disproven?
The difference between that and the Bible is that the only way to deal with "oh, it would be impossible for the earth to flood and for 2 of every animal to get onto a boat" is to handwave
Or if someone proved that gender is binary 😛
It wouldn't be entirely disproven
It might be that some aspect of it is incorrect, but it has predictive capability in reproducible environments
The numbers check out
And the more things we can get to check out, the more we can verify new ideas against
the numbers DO check out, but to oversimplify things, you can model 2 ( operation) 2 = 4 as 2+2=4, but you ALSO can model 2*2=4
there are alternative explainations for some things, but it would disrupt a lot of theories.
Sure, but that's not the same as everything being upended. It's partially correct, not fully incorrect
the reason why some theories struggle to usurp others is because they don't have a full answer for some things, but they might actually be right.
And we have had things like that occur in multiple fields
harder sciences deal with it better because they're closer to math.
it's like that in physics
softer sciences FAIL MISERABLY at this.
they're trying to get a "theory of everything"