Message from @Lord Zedd
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there's no proof god exists so it's best to assume he doesn't
In the same sense that I do not entertain the notion of Thor or the Tooth Fairy
but if someone finds personal value in religion power to them, I don't it but whatever floats their boat
@Lord Zedd that depends on how you answer the decartes bargain.
although Descartes would disagree with that suggestion 😉
we all have to found our own way in life, mine isn't religious I think I'm missing the religious belief part of the brain, probably why I'm not a Socialist or Progressive
probably 😃
but generally people try to fill that religious hole in their heart. It happens eventually, usually after people experience some great event close to birth or death.
I don't think it's a religious hole, really
it's a need for meaning I guess
or purpose
I think people just want meaning, and some people are satisfied with someone else's answer
religion isn't always 'someone elses answer' but i agree that its a 'meaning hole'
I accepted that any purpose or meaning obtained in life is self given, it can be whatever you want it to be
but all methods of 'search for meaning' become religions. Including science.
It is always to an extent. You're accepting a grand, supernatural power on faith
Science as a search for meaning is pointless
well grand ideological might be a bit more apt
I agree, which is why I'm religious 😄
Science is a tool for explaining phenomena
science isn't a science it's an art 😄
The search for meaning doesn't have a method. It's not really method based at all
The notion of a blueprint or external source for it is wrongheaded
my problem is when people argue that science is truth.
it has some method or it wouldn't work
science is an opinion on the truth with good evidence, but like any opinion it can be wrong.
Science is a method by which one obtains truth, or the closest thing to it
and any opinion based system is vulnerable to huxters and liars.
best approximation of truth
Opinion is misleading
A reliable scientific conclusion is reproducible, either via calculation or experimentation
Even a repeated experiment is often highly conjecture based.
and relies on assumptions that may or may not be true.
Socialism fails the scientific standard everytime
for example you can repeat a lot of 'experiments' that work, but they work for reasons that DO NOT have to do with what you're proving.
which makes it no more than dogma
Yeah, the approach of observation isn't some clean-slate methodology. You always go into everything having to make assumptions
^^^^
even if its 'my eyes work;
That's why you challenge and retest