Union does the work for you and all you have to do is pay them some of your money to do something for you

Yeah, the actual answers people have given make me think they actually have no answer to that question beyond "Jim Sterling said it would make everything better!" or something similar.

I assumed as such

The real issue is developers are unwilling when it comes to it to use negotiation tactics. Which I understand in larger companies where companies can hire younger developers for less money.

Ultimately you are screwed as a developer until "gamers rise up" and actually remember they are a consumer and they hold all the power.

Honestly though as most children's entertainment goes most people consuming it are either kids or stunted adults. So asking them to both smarten up with their money when for the majority it isn't even their money is a hard sell.

Unions exist to only benefit employees. They do nothing for the company and nothing for the consumers.

The left likes unions because they take control of them and force everything to go in the direction they like.

Just seems like the usual response of trying to break the laws of supply/demand

The game industry workers suffer from being near-infinitely replaceable. So, rather than have to compete against each other by working longer hours for lower wages, they figure they can just team up and make those problems go away

I simply decided I didn't want to compete in such a market and got a regular tech job as a software developer. I work fewer hours and (effectively) get paid more. Amazing how that works.

Yeah. It’s like they don’t understand that there’s an oversupply in the market.

They also don't get that it goes both ways: if an employer in such an oversaturated market wanted to pay them better wages or not have long working hours, other companies would beat them to market and they'd fail anyway.

I feel like there should be a middle ground of complete control of unions and just a larger more knowledgable entity to assist employees

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5cc71633e4b0fd8e35bfc914

anyone see this?

my reaction...

https://media.tenor.com/images/9f0e2015283b24de86f386724a173c13/tenor.gif

Cynet may very well be one of the contracting companies that my employer does business with. If that's the case, most of their current employees are Indian

Yeah I was wondering if this was an attempted diversity initiative with bad optics, if not a joke that accidentally made it through lol

If you can hire someone cuz they're black or Mexican you can for white people as well.. otherwise it's just hypocritical

So there were two results of my little conversation on Reddit where I asked how unions would save the game Dev industry.

1) The whole argument pisses me off even more now, because the few people that did respond made it clear that they have no idea how unions would help, they are just regurgitating what they've been told by others.

2) I got banned from that sub because some cunt tried to pretend like posting on The Donald invalidated my opinion and I told him to eat shit and die.

It's almost like most of reddit is left wing echo chambers.

There are definitely some bad conditions in the gaming industry, but I think that may be the result of everyone and their dog wanting to work in it. I think if people realize it's not all it's cracked up to be the labor supply will drop and they'll have to make some changes

I would have figured the same, but it hasn't happened yet, and this stuff has been going on for years.

Yeah, I'm not even saying temporary organization of the workers to get a point across (I personally don't believe permanent labor unions are ever a good idea) wouldn't be worth doing, but I'm not going to believe it's going to fix everything either

The problem is if they quit there are 10x the people waiting in line

https://youtu.be/lOfZLb33uCg

Average birthrate in Amish Country? 7 kids per couple

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Pretty sure they don't use tractors

Maybe not. But I AM sure they use UBER.

I'm arguing with people who foolishly believe "body language" is a useful thing lol.

Body language can be useful

Only for officials who can use it against someone who believe it tells them something. You don't learn anything from it.

I don't know that I would go that far, it's just situational

Situationally useless.

lol

body language can u tell you something as simple as they are cold

or if a chicks into you

50% of communication is non verbal