Message from @Keeper GraveAve

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2019-06-28 01:49:25 UTC  

Twitter has gone downhill in viability since 2016

2019-06-28 02:20:16 UTC  

It would appear muting works on some stuff, but not on trending which appears to always be front and center.

2019-06-28 02:26:54 UTC  

They're giving Yang the treatment the gave Gabbard and Delaney.

2019-06-28 02:33:02 UTC  

I hit my head today and had to get it glued back together. Still less of a headache than watching the Democrats try to out progressive each other.

2019-06-28 02:49:50 UTC  

@Keeper GraveAve
No, I'm sorry but the Dems will never find a pair again.
And yes, you joined a militia. Swear in date can be found on your birth certificate.
¿Was it hot glue btw?
@zerodaysheep
I don't. I got a life to the power of infinite squared ban on twatter for deadnaming Chelsea MANNING.

2019-06-28 02:52:08 UTC  

@Mandatory Carry Medical hotglue. That I enjoyed for free due to my fathers work insurence that doesn't tax the shit out of everyone. Feels good.

2019-06-28 03:02:26 UTC  

😂😂😂😂

2019-06-28 03:08:10 UTC  

damn crowder is not a bad singer

2019-06-28 03:11:51 UTC  

I’ve really enjoyed his parody song bits

2019-06-28 04:33:12 UTC  

Hot glue is the shit.

2019-06-28 11:47:05 UTC  
2019-06-28 14:32:43 UTC  

@everyone Can someone here give me the reason it keeps being repeated that Healthcare is a Human Right? All I keep finding is that it is a human right because it is good for people. Is that really it?

2019-06-28 14:36:18 UTC  

As far as I know, yes. People *should* have it, so we'll declare it a right (and pretend that the laws of supply and demand no longer apply).

2019-06-28 14:39:25 UTC  

Voters want free shit.. and "Healthcare is a Human Right" sounds better than vote for me and ill give u stuff

2019-06-28 14:40:12 UTC  

Idk. Is it? Do I get arrested for trying to practice med on my own or with willing participants should something go wrong 💁🏽‍♂️

2019-06-28 14:41:05 UTC  

*smiles in Pepe*

2019-06-28 14:44:30 UTC  

If gov/boards holds a type of monopoly seems shitty to me I can't get that sweet sweet doctor feel up ya dig ;)?

2019-06-28 14:45:31 UTC  

That or let me figure out being a doctor unperturbed 👽but that's just meeee. Too Libertarian???

2019-06-28 14:46:21 UTC  

Not Fascist enough

2019-06-28 14:49:35 UTC  

So that's the best we can come up with? I can't argue that, escpecially if their counter point is telling everyone that I want people to die.

2019-06-28 14:50:32 UTC  

Would tiers of doctor-ing work better than a single 10 year+ qualification system?

2019-06-28 14:50:46 UTC  

would definitely make it cheaper to start

2019-06-28 14:57:35 UTC  

From what I've seen of the underlying arguments it's along the lines of Healthcare is equivalent to food, water, air, etc therefore it is a human right etc

2019-06-28 15:02:42 UTC  

Yea that seems to be it ^

2019-06-28 15:03:21 UTC  

Though all of the above are not guaranteed either
In fact, as far as claim rights go, all of the above cannot be rights as they are impossible to fulfill
Here: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/rights/#2.1
Obviously the right to food could only be a liberty as you have the right not to food etc
But they want to make it a claim right which would mean that the government has the duty to provide food for the people
However, this would mean that the people then have a no-claim on how that food is delivered etc

2019-06-28 15:03:23 UTC  

Doctor tiers sound interesting

2019-06-28 15:03:42 UTC  

That's how the rest of the world does it, well for the most part

2019-06-28 15:04:12 UTC  

Which doesn't make sense, because humans survived and thrived without it, and because you can guarantee access/enforcement of non deprivation only, not provision

2019-06-28 15:04:57 UTC  

But yeah I was thinking about the doctors thing in the context of paying 10+ years for school and then often basically having to start your own business while in the hole to get started

2019-06-28 15:05:04 UTC  

That would be the economics argument/biological argument. But as many have stated they don't know nor care about those things

2019-06-28 15:05:33 UTC  

And how the time and money costs work against motivating more people to become medical practitioners

2019-06-28 15:06:31 UTC  

```Entry-level medical education programs are tertiary-level courses undertaken at a medical school. Depending on jurisdiction and university, these may be either undergraduate-entry (most of Europe, Asia, South America and Oceania), or graduate-entry programs (mainly Australia, North America). Some jurisdictions and universities provide both undergraduate entry programs and graduate entry programs (Australia, South Korea).```

2019-06-28 15:06:33 UTC  

Well, from the "niceness" argument, Canada isn't treating its doctors especially well, evidently. We don't have enough of them/enough facilities to support medical treatment

2019-06-28 15:06:58 UTC  

I just took this from the WHO website
```The enjoyment of the highest attainable standard of health is one of the fundamental rights of every human being without distinction of race, religion, political belief, economic or social condition.```
How the hell does anyone actually expect that to work?

2019-06-28 15:07:15 UTC  

The highest attainable standard lol

2019-06-28 15:07:20 UTC  
2019-06-28 15:07:25 UTC  

```At present, in the United Kingdom, a typical medicine course at university is 5 years or 4 years if the student already holds a degree. Among some institutions and for some students, it may be 6 years (including the selection of an intercalated BSc—taking one year—at some point after the pre-clinical studies). All programs culminate in the Bachelor of Medicine and Surgery degree (abbreviated MBChB, MBBS, MBBCh, BM, etc.). This is followed by 2 clinical foundation years afterward, namely F1 and F2, similar to internship training. Students register with the UK General Medical Council at the end of F1. At the end of F2, they may pursue further years of study. The system in Australia is very similar, with registration by the Australian Medical Council (AMC).

In the US and Canada, a potential medical student must first complete an undergraduate degree in any subject before applying to a graduate medical school to pursue an (M.D. or D.O.) program. U.S. medical schools are almost all four-year programs. Some students opt for the research-focused M.D./Ph.D. dual degree program, which is usually completed in 7–10 years. There are certain courses that are pre-requisite for being accepted to medical school, such as general chemistry, organic chemistry, physics, mathematics, biology, English, labwork, etc. The specific requirements vary by school.

In Australia, there are two pathways to a medical degree. Students can choose to take a five- or six-year undergraduate medical degree Bachelor of Medicine/Bachelor of Surgery (MBBS or BMed) as a first tertiary degree directly after secondary school graduation, or first complete a bachelor's degree (in general three years, usually in the medical sciences) and then apply for a four-year graduate entry Bachelor of Medicine/Bachelor of Surgery (MBBS) program.```

2019-06-28 15:07:48 UTC  

Where is that from anyway

2019-06-28 15:07:59 UTC  

@Beemann so wt uur sayin is GOTTDAMN American billionaires need to pay our doctors ;)

2019-06-28 15:08:00 UTC  

Also the above is just an example of three systems