in closing, the states that voted red in 2016 house more population than states that voted blue, according to electoral college

Dont want my nieces and nephews growing up here

@Just for youtube [NB1] agree

Not worth it

Not worth not being able to carry a firearm

I'm a white straight christian male, what is the school system going to do to my son?!?!?!

also

dont tell the Dems,

I related JEFFERSON DAVIS BITCH

I'm not forcing you to want to be somewhere... But we can't just run away from these problems and expect them to get better.

Nobody is saying California will get better

Someone in my friend group got robbed and beat with a crowbar for the money in his wallet and half of the group is left leaning and all the sudden they wanted to carry guns

Too bad we cant carry guns

I don't believe California will get better any time soon

@amlam Is? Not anytime soon. Can never? I'm not sure.

Any time soon like, within 20 years

to @Shadows credit, he's saying that it is worth fighting for

to my credit, I have a newborn son, that's not a fight i can make, i have to keep my family first

Your statement was operating the assumption that we wanted California to get better by moving away. Ultimately the argument is “I can’t do anything to fix this. I’m leaving for the safety of my family”

@Clive Ya, i wouldn't suggest anyone who doesn't want to do it stay.

Yes I'm with amlam

each person will ultimately make the decision that deem best for them and theirs

that they *

@amlam I already said i wouldn't force anyone to be some place. So that doesn't really change what else i said.

I'm moving because I cannot help, i can't fix the problem, I'm moving to protect my family

Selfishly I suppose

Which is fine.

Stuck between a rock and a hard place

“We can’t just run away from these problems and expect them to get better.”
A true and irrelevant statement since nobody who’s leaving is doing so hoping it will get better.

There's a street in my city named after my family

It's just not the same place anymore

Obviously a tough decision to move a few states a way

Away*

What? @amlam

@amlam
CA can't get better until it hits rock bottom. 😢😢😢😢

but if a state hits rock bottom, won't it just get more federal bailout?

Depends on what rock bottom is

honest question, not rhetorical

If it just turns into a place with no economic prosperity because everyone moved away from the murder and taxes then it’ll just be a poor place no one wants to go to

but CA has massive ag and food exports, we do need it

They can still have that and hit rock bottom compared to what they are now

other states need CA and not for sillycon valley hornywood

as one who lives in the ag centrall of CA i can tell you it is tettering on the brink already