Message from @Putz

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2019-07-06 00:40:03 UTC  

focusing especially on engineers

2019-07-06 00:40:41 UTC  

A commie dictatorship would see that as subversion via treaty or something

2019-07-06 00:40:53 UTC  

i think it's a good compromise between the extremes of open borders and isolationism

2019-07-06 00:41:04 UTC  

then they can simply fuck off then

2019-07-06 00:41:33 UTC  

If you could make the concept work, it's a great leap forward

2019-07-06 00:41:49 UTC  

it's also something the west could offer countries in Africa to serve as an alternative to chinese influence

2019-07-06 00:42:49 UTC  

it could also be used for training police forces and even military for these countries helping them become more stable

2019-07-06 00:44:08 UTC  

I hate agreeing with the Dalai Lama...

2019-07-06 00:49:42 UTC  

Kony had the right idea then some naked fruit went and ruined it

2019-07-06 00:52:08 UTC  

@Lord Zedd your still making an assumption that the worlds problems are owned by america

2019-07-06 00:52:23 UTC  

i didn't even say America

2019-07-06 00:52:32 UTC  

I wouldn't even pilot the idea there

2019-07-06 00:52:42 UTC  

but it'

2019-07-06 00:53:08 UTC  

s better to have trade partners than dependents seems like this is a way to potentially turn the latter into the former

2019-07-06 00:53:48 UTC  

Okay, sorry i was overly specific. Your assuming a stable countries owes it to a unstable country to improve their situation

2019-07-06 00:53:58 UTC  

no i'm not

2019-07-06 00:54:18 UTC  

I'm assuming that it's better for everyone to have more stable countries

2019-07-06 00:54:30 UTC  

less need for migration then

2019-07-06 00:54:34 UTC  

no need for aid

2019-07-06 00:54:40 UTC  

less need for military

2019-07-06 00:55:01 UTC  

It has never worked before

2019-07-06 00:55:17 UTC  

You dont think buying peace has been attempted

2019-07-06 00:55:26 UTC  

it's not buying peace

2019-07-06 00:55:53 UTC  

So whats in it for the stable country?

2019-07-06 00:55:56 UTC  

it's investing in the future of other countries and it has worked, it's an extension of the US' military philosophy

2019-07-06 00:56:03 UTC  

turn enemies into friends

2019-07-06 00:56:07 UTC  

Japan, Vietnam

2019-07-06 00:56:33 UTC  

You want to help the third world, stop farming subsidies

2019-07-06 00:57:53 UTC  

The west has kept the third world poor delibertly by protectionist policies that actually increase production costs

2019-07-06 00:58:06 UTC  

some western countries already implement the idea on a very small scale, I'm thinking it could be expanded on with a bit more quid pro quo involved

2019-07-06 00:58:26 UTC  

Japan wasnt cheap

2019-07-06 00:58:42 UTC  

Nor was vietnam

2019-07-06 00:58:52 UTC  

and that's why I'm suggesting here to stop that policy and treat them less like a work force and more like a potential trade partner

2019-07-06 00:59:07 UTC  

And vietnam still had to practically destroy itself before it relaxed policies

2019-07-06 00:59:31 UTC  

They arent a trade partner because they dont have anything we want

2019-07-06 00:59:47 UTC  

What does haiti have to offer the rest of the world

2019-07-06 01:00:21 UTC  

obviously it's not a panacea but it's a step in the right direction at least, it'll still ultimately fall on the countries themselves to take advantage of that opportunity

2019-07-06 01:00:47 UTC  

nothing at the moment because they're dead fucking poor

2019-07-06 01:01:19 UTC  

So why invest in a place that has nothing to return

2019-07-06 01:01:19 UTC  

it doesn't have to stay that way though

2019-07-06 01:01:39 UTC  

investments aren't for the immediate they are for the future