Message from @Putz
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i didn't even say America
I wouldn't even pilot the idea there
but it'
s better to have trade partners than dependents seems like this is a way to potentially turn the latter into the former
Okay, sorry i was overly specific. Your assuming a stable countries owes it to a unstable country to improve their situation
no i'm not
I'm assuming that it's better for everyone to have more stable countries
less need for migration then
no need for aid
less need for military
It has never worked before
You dont think buying peace has been attempted
it's not buying peace
So whats in it for the stable country?
it's investing in the future of other countries and it has worked, it's an extension of the US' military philosophy
turn enemies into friends
Japan, Vietnam
You want to help the third world, stop farming subsidies
The west has kept the third world poor delibertly by protectionist policies that actually increase production costs
some western countries already implement the idea on a very small scale, I'm thinking it could be expanded on with a bit more quid pro quo involved
Nor was vietnam
and that's why I'm suggesting here to stop that policy and treat them less like a work force and more like a potential trade partner
And vietnam still had to practically destroy itself before it relaxed policies
They arent a trade partner because they dont have anything we want
What does haiti have to offer the rest of the world
obviously it's not a panacea but it's a step in the right direction at least, it'll still ultimately fall on the countries themselves to take advantage of that opportunity
nothing at the moment because they're dead fucking poor
So why invest in a place that has nothing to return
it doesn't have to stay that way though
investments aren't for the immediate they are for the future
What can they offer in the future?
We already have people trying to scare us because automation will make labor obsolete
if they wanted a fast injection of cash they could have basically low businesses tax set themselves up as a tax haven and build from there, take that money build good infrastrcture and hotels turn the country into a tourism hotspot
Not really, their instability makes them high risk, noonne is going to do high risk low return investments. The return has to offset the risk
which is why you're training their next generation of accountants, politician, police etc
the west does that for their countries in exchange they agree to certain terms like freeing up their markets and keeping the crime rate low as possible etc
this is long term investment
better to help them feed themselves than deal with them at your doorstep
Haiti doesnt need accountants and police. Copenhagen consensus already outlined their prioritize. And guess what, it needs immunizations, micronutrients, healthcare. Things that will take them a generation before making accountants
http://www.copenhagenconsensus.com/sites/default/files/haiti_priorise_outcome_en.pdf
And 4 year election cycles have no interest in long term investments