Discord has a 2000 character limit. And I'll repeat that employer-provided health plans are not taxes. They are compensation paid by employers to employees. So what are you talking about?

They are exempt from federal income taxes. That is called a tax expenditure. It is a trick to hide subsidies. Instead of handing people money, you make something they buy anyway tax deductible. That is the same thing as handing them cash.

But that is not a wealth transfer, a wealth transfer would be a subsidy for providing healthcare

Ok, now I understand what you are saying, at least.

Okay, so Professor Phelps knows nothing about economics. Glad you understand economics better than he does.

Its an incentive to soend money in a way that the government finds more advantageous than how they would spend it themselves

Silly AEI, having him speak about something some fool on the Internet can't explain better than he does.

But health insurance premiums are tax deductible for everyone.

I'm sure your sarcastic attitude is helping you feel superior but it is not making your argument more persuasive, fyi.

What argument? All I am arguing is that we should pay attention to important things. How is that something that needs to be argued?

"Let's spend time listening to experts about the largest parts of our budget." What is your counterargument to that?

Lol.

America is not a technocrancy

Bingo! It is an idiocracy... At least it feels like it at times.

We listen to the people who are most entertaining, not most knowledgeable.

We do, that doesnt mean are representatives do

We outsource our democratic process because the ROI on a full democracy is not good

Wouldn't it be nice if a single newspaper in this country reviewed a book on healthcare policy by Trump's nominee to head healthcare policy? I would then be able to point you to that review instead of having to try to explain it to you.

But, we'll listen to a bunch of idiots "debating" "healthcare" "policy" on TV...

Or i could read the book instead of a review if i felt the information was worthwhile

You don't feel it is worthwhile why?

You never heard of it

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Because healthcare is not a role assigned to the federal government

Well, I am sure that will fix it.

And my representatives have not given them that duty

Let me know how that works out for you when Kamala Harris bans all private health insurance.

She can't, because she would need support from both houses of Congress and the supreme court to do it

If you say so.

Its just ideal promises, like the warren wealth tax which is also unconstitutional

So did Obamacare happen or not?

You sound like gun control people talking about how great it will be when we ban guns and suddenly will live in a world without guns. Because unconstitutional things never happen.

how does that even follow?

we sound like gun control ppl? bro you must be new to this server

It did, but only because dems controlled the house, senate, and the supreme court

"We"

what?

So @argyris are you advocating that we remove the tax deduction for health insurance premiums?

I am advocating that we pay attention to the book written by Stephen Parente, first and foremost because the fact nobody talked about his ideas is suspicious.

round and round we go.

"we" again. You said you were not convinced. I thought you bowed out of this conversation.