Message from @argyris

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2019-08-15 03:36:09 UTC  

I'm sorry. Not everything fits in 140 characters. Especially things that the Swamp doesn't want us to talk about. Em.ployer provided health insurance is the largest tax expenditure in the budget

2019-08-15 03:37:10 UTC  

When you talk about things that are not in the public view, nobody knows the ABCs. That is by design.

2019-08-15 03:37:57 UTC  

The words "tax expenditure" aren't even something most people have heard.

2019-08-15 03:39:28 UTC  

Discord has a 2000 character limit. And I'll repeat that employer-provided health plans are not taxes. They are compensation paid by employers to employees. So what are you talking about?

2019-08-15 03:40:57 UTC  

They are exempt from federal income taxes. That is called a tax expenditure. It is a trick to hide subsidies. Instead of handing people money, you make something they buy anyway tax deductible. That is the same thing as handing them cash.

2019-08-15 03:41:56 UTC  

But that is not a wealth transfer, a wealth transfer would be a subsidy for providing healthcare

2019-08-15 03:42:10 UTC  

Ok, now I understand what you are saying, at least.

2019-08-15 03:42:26 UTC  

Okay, so Professor Phelps knows nothing about economics. Glad you understand economics better than he does.

2019-08-15 03:43:20 UTC  

Its an incentive to soend money in a way that the government finds more advantageous than how they would spend it themselves

2019-08-15 03:43:23 UTC  

Silly AEI, having him speak about something some fool on the Internet can't explain better than he does.

2019-08-15 03:43:36 UTC  

But health insurance premiums are tax deductible for everyone.

2019-08-15 03:44:25 UTC  

I'm sure your sarcastic attitude is helping you feel superior but it is not making your argument more persuasive, fyi.

2019-08-15 03:44:59 UTC  

What argument? All I am arguing is that we should pay attention to important things. How is that something that needs to be argued?

2019-08-15 03:45:45 UTC  

"Let's spend time listening to experts about the largest parts of our budget." What is your counterargument to that?

2019-08-15 03:46:05 UTC  

Lol.

2019-08-15 03:46:40 UTC  

America is not a technocrancy

2019-08-15 03:47:11 UTC  

Bingo! It is an idiocracy... At least it feels like it at times.

2019-08-15 03:47:29 UTC  

We listen to the people who are most entertaining, not most knowledgeable.

2019-08-15 03:48:00 UTC  

We do, that doesnt mean are representatives do

2019-08-15 03:48:39 UTC  

We outsource our democratic process because the ROI on a full democracy is not good

2019-08-15 03:48:56 UTC  

Wouldn't it be nice if a single newspaper in this country reviewed a book on healthcare policy by Trump's nominee to head healthcare policy? I would then be able to point you to that review instead of having to try to explain it to you.

2019-08-15 03:49:37 UTC  

But, we'll listen to a bunch of idiots "debating" "healthcare" "policy" on TV...

2019-08-15 03:49:41 UTC  

Or i could read the book instead of a review if i felt the information was worthwhile

2019-08-15 03:49:57 UTC  

You don't feel it is worthwhile why?

2019-08-15 03:50:04 UTC  

You never heard of it

2019-08-15 03:50:06 UTC  

?

2019-08-15 03:50:24 UTC  

Because healthcare is not a role assigned to the federal government

2019-08-15 03:50:45 UTC  

Well, I am sure that will fix it.

2019-08-15 03:50:58 UTC  

And my representatives have not given them that duty

2019-08-15 03:51:43 UTC  

Let me know how that works out for you when Kamala Harris bans all private health insurance.

2019-08-15 03:52:34 UTC  

She can't, because she would need support from both houses of Congress and the supreme court to do it

2019-08-15 03:53:00 UTC  

If you say so.

2019-08-15 03:53:17 UTC  

Its just ideal promises, like the warren wealth tax which is also unconstitutional

2019-08-15 03:53:37 UTC  

So did Obamacare happen or not?

2019-08-15 03:54:50 UTC  

You sound like gun control people talking about how great it will be when we ban guns and suddenly will live in a world without guns. Because unconstitutional things never happen.

2019-08-15 03:55:21 UTC  

how does that even follow?

2019-08-15 03:55:47 UTC  

we sound like gun control ppl? bro you must be new to this server

2019-08-15 03:56:00 UTC  

It did, but only because dems controlled the house, senate, and the supreme court

2019-08-15 03:56:36 UTC  

"We"

2019-08-15 03:56:48 UTC  

what?

2019-08-15 03:56:53 UTC  

So @argyris are you advocating that we remove the tax deduction for health insurance premiums?