haven't really thought about it

Like the answer to that question is basically never if you live in Vancouver. Most households are two working parents

@pussydestroyer Enough to support a wife and child usually ranges around 30k - 45k depending on geography. The trouble is that when a woman makes 60k/year 40k/year for a man is _not_ attractive.

Dont live in a liberal city. Those are shit places to raise a family to begin with @Beemann

Depends on what line of work you get into

Like I can leave, and plan to

But my gamedev friend cannot

I would call you women vain and shallow for having such an opinion, but that's just the nature of how we are as a species really. I'd have to get mad at myself for finding slim waists and wide hips attractive. That's just what I'm wired for.

He got married though so it worked out

Who the fuck would want a woman who doesnt care about her appearance and health to begin with

Exactly

Being attractive to the opposite gender goes both ways, the responsibility doesnt entirely fall onto the man

^

No one wants a woman who doesn’t take care of herself in any way shape or form

If you ask anyone on the left these days though. 150% of all possible responsibilities fall to the man.

Morbidly fat is unattractive in general

@Neon_Flipflop on spanking, I reckon _I_ needed it, but I've never needed to do so for my daughter

So =/

Depends on the child

I’m still amazed at how fat a human being can get and still be alive

You're not a "real man" unless you work constantly, give all your money to your woman, and praise her constantly regardless of how far she lets herself go.

@Gunner Fox no one in this discussion here is on the left, atleast not to my knowledge. Those arent the targets you should be focused on regardless

Some are temperamentally incapable of being disciplined without physical attritutes

But I feel like being bitter and venomous.

Be productive instead

attributes*

Then you can be smug and satisfied when the underperformers get jealous :^)

So the other thing that women these days are unhappy about is when a man complains, like right now. I just want to do a little griping, but apparently...

Dont let the left have that power over you where they are actively making YOU miserable.

A real man should only ever be productive and shut his fucking mouth.

clearly, I need some food... angry fox is angry 😈

You're not you when you're hungry

lmao

My husband works in law enforcement. Id be highly concerned if he all of a sudden stopped talking to me considering the suicide rate in the profession.
Im his comfort and his support. Women who cant fucking take 2 seconds and put their partner first can all get fucking stoned for all I care

Blonde’s fashy academy?

Yeah honestly mutual support sounds like an especially attractive thing. Moreso than a lot of other factors

You work as a team.

I agree with you @pussydestroyer

Yeah, I had a string of girlfriends who didn't really give a shit, but the day I decided to marry my wife was when she got me to actually talked and then supported me

They're out there

I dunno, a concervative cul-de-sac sounds kind of nice. Like a small rural section where we're all concervative and live close enough to keep an eye on eachother's safety without being close enough to hear spousal arguments.