Big oof guys

Replaced my abs with kebab flabs

Also what is you guys opinion on spanking?

Depends on the kid

@Legalize By economically attractive I mean make enough money to support a wife and kids.

keep nsfw content in the nsfw chat @Neon_Flipflop

[Insert lewd joke here]

Spanking your children

Because that is what economically attractive *should* mean

As in punishment for bad things

That's regionally dependent

@Neon_Flipflop I was as a kid, but rarely

idk

haven't really thought about it

Like the answer to that question is basically never if you live in Vancouver. Most households are two working parents

@pussydestroyer Enough to support a wife and child usually ranges around 30k - 45k depending on geography. The trouble is that when a woman makes 60k/year 40k/year for a man is _not_ attractive.

Dont live in a liberal city. Those are shit places to raise a family to begin with @Beemann

Depends on what line of work you get into

Like I can leave, and plan to

But my gamedev friend cannot

I would call you women vain and shallow for having such an opinion, but that's just the nature of how we are as a species really. I'd have to get mad at myself for finding slim waists and wide hips attractive. That's just what I'm wired for.

He got married though so it worked out

Who the fuck would want a woman who doesnt care about her appearance and health to begin with

Exactly

Being attractive to the opposite gender goes both ways, the responsibility doesnt entirely fall onto the man

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No one wants a woman who doesn’t take care of herself in any way shape or form

If you ask anyone on the left these days though. 150% of all possible responsibilities fall to the man.

Morbidly fat is unattractive in general

@Neon_Flipflop on spanking, I reckon _I_ needed it, but I've never needed to do so for my daughter

So =/

Depends on the child

I’m still amazed at how fat a human being can get and still be alive

You're not a "real man" unless you work constantly, give all your money to your woman, and praise her constantly regardless of how far she lets herself go.

@Gunner Fox no one in this discussion here is on the left, atleast not to my knowledge. Those arent the targets you should be focused on regardless

Some are temperamentally incapable of being disciplined without physical attritutes

But I feel like being bitter and venomous.

Be productive instead

attributes*

Then you can be smug and satisfied when the underperformers get jealous :^)

So the other thing that women these days are unhappy about is when a man complains, like right now. I just want to do a little griping, but apparently...