Message from @chaizu

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2019-12-21 18:20:46 UTC  

Suffering is caused by sin

2019-12-21 18:20:57 UTC  

The through suffer comes greater good

2019-12-21 18:21:06 UTC  

Even in treatment people suffer

2019-12-21 18:21:21 UTC  

It is good to show mercy to others

2019-12-21 18:21:50 UTC  

Do not be so one minded about this

2019-12-21 18:22:14 UTC  

Both punishment and salvation come from God

2019-12-21 18:22:28 UTC  

Suffering and elevation

2019-12-21 18:22:53 UTC  

How do you know this?

2019-12-21 18:23:25 UTC  

The words of saints

2019-12-21 18:23:27 UTC  

It seems highly faith-based

2019-12-21 18:24:32 UTC  

Isn't it possible that those saints could have just been lying or delusional or something?

2019-12-21 18:26:54 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/649061211849097217/658012540004991006/IMG_20191221_174641.jpg

2019-12-21 18:26:59 UTC  

Nope

2019-12-21 18:41:09 UTC  

Why not? Is it not true that all humans are fallible?

2019-12-21 18:46:07 UTC  

"There is a difference between treatment for an illness and completely changing your body to reject a social role" what if I'm changing my body to treat gender dysphoria @Danacrag

2019-12-21 18:52:36 UTC  

That is terminal gender dysphoria imo @chaizu

2019-12-21 18:53:26 UTC  

Eh?

2019-12-21 18:53:51 UTC  

Do you uh

2019-12-21 18:53:57 UTC  

Do you know what terminal means

2019-12-21 18:55:58 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/649061211849097217/658019852966952971/SmartSelect_20191221-115551_Discord.jpg

2019-12-21 18:56:19 UTC  

I'm happy for you rejecting your social role as prescribed by god

2019-12-21 18:56:47 UTC  

I do. And the high suicide rate of transgenders is example for that

2019-12-21 18:57:00 UTC  

Pretransition transgendered people*

2019-12-21 18:57:56 UTC  

Pretty much all of the data shows that trans peoples lives have a strong tendency to improve following transition.

2019-12-21 18:58:01 UTC  

The failure to help people with proper treatment because of lies about transitioning isnt helpful anyone

2019-12-21 18:58:13 UTC  

What are the lies about transitioning

2019-12-21 19:16:44 UTC  
2019-12-21 19:20:48 UTC  

Tbh I cant be bothered to argue about stats on this. Everyone has stats that they like. I cant really buy into studies done on some place that has an LGBT equality section. Seems like they will choose whatever studies they like. @chaizu

2019-12-21 19:22:05 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/649061211849097217/658026427580678144/unknown.png

2019-12-21 19:22:21 UTC  

Are their studies to the contrary though? It's not like they cherry picked one or two studies, this was a meta-analysis of 55 studies

2019-12-21 19:22:36 UTC  

@Castore don't try to lie and say you haven't done it

2019-12-21 19:22:49 UTC  

i havent and im not lying

2019-12-21 19:23:29 UTC  

@LustrousMandrill did you try to do it ?

2019-12-21 19:24:44 UTC  

Everyone with a dick has tried it at some point

2019-12-21 19:24:55 UTC  

That's my position on the matter

2019-12-21 19:45:18 UTC  

@Danacrag why don't you bring in in the idiots you listen to on the topic in here

2019-12-21 19:45:23 UTC  

@Danacrag "im going to ignore this metaanalysis because my prior unfounded belief disagrees with it"

2019-12-21 19:47:54 UTC  

@Deleted User you groomed me. No one else did

2019-12-21 19:50:04 UTC  

You were literally debating if you were a trans woman or not like 8 months ago

2019-12-21 19:50:43 UTC  

Or if you should transition. And your conclusion was no even though you want to, because it is against catholicism