Message from @bentech

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2018-09-08 15:40:40 UTC  

cop that now

2018-09-08 15:42:28 UTC  

@bentech yeah but in that case why do ARM tablets still compete? I mean unless it's cases where companies want to use their own ARM processors. They're priced about the same as intel atom ones on banggood for example...

2018-09-08 15:42:30 UTC  

I CANT WATCH HD NETFLIX ON MY POCOPHONE WHAT AM I GONNA DO

2018-09-08 15:42:33 UTC  

OH NO

2018-09-08 15:42:48 UTC  

better battery life

2018-09-08 15:42:59 UTC  

built in modem (qualcomm dominate in modems)

2018-09-08 15:48:46 UTC  

>better battery life isn't that dependent purely on TDP? @bentech

2018-09-08 15:49:52 UTC  

no

2018-09-08 15:49:55 UTC  

tdp is meaningless

2018-09-08 15:50:10 UTC  

bassically think frequency ramp up speed etc

2018-09-08 15:50:17 UTC  

how much power it uses while sleeping

2018-09-08 15:50:18 UTC  

etc

2018-09-08 15:51:06 UTC  

So ARM is more efficient? @bentech

2018-09-08 15:51:13 UTC  

then why was it abandoned in PCs?

2018-09-08 15:51:25 UTC  

because it was never used in the first place

2018-09-08 15:51:25 UTC  

because nearly everything is x86

2018-09-08 15:51:25 UTC  

lol

2018-09-08 15:51:34 UTC  

everytihng pc side is x86

2018-09-08 15:51:37 UTC  

most server stuff is x86

2018-09-08 15:51:42 UTC  

ok some routing stuff maybe with ARM

2018-09-08 15:51:51 UTC  

ARM programs don't run on x86 natively

2018-09-08 15:52:18 UTC  

having to emulate x86 in ARM is slow

2018-09-08 15:52:22 UTC  

which means it uses more power

2018-09-08 15:52:50 UTC  

pretty much

2018-09-08 15:53:11 UTC  

the only thing that limited sucess in pcs w as powerpc

2018-09-08 15:53:18 UTC  

because it's what macs/some workstations in the 90s used

2018-09-08 15:53:23 UTC  

though that's all x86 now

2018-09-08 15:54:55 UTC  

if your wondering how slow it is

2018-09-08 15:55:06 UTC  

gets stomped by anything natively x86

2018-09-08 15:55:23 UTC  

even in real world stuff

2018-09-08 15:55:29 UTC  

also only 32 bit

2018-09-08 15:55:30 UTC  

not 64

2018-09-08 15:55:36 UTC  

wow

2018-09-08 15:55:52 UTC  

Now post arm emulation on x86

2018-09-08 15:56:26 UTC  

So ARM is slower but has lower power consumption... right? @bentech

2018-09-08 15:56:55 UTC  

Also wait didn't ARM exist way, way before x86?

2018-09-08 15:56:57 UTC  

ok don't think of it as purely arm vs x86

2018-09-08 15:57:02 UTC  

it all depends chip to chip