Message from @Emile Borovich

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2018-09-03 12:59:16 UTC  

I don't always agree with this guy, but this video is spot on

2018-09-03 20:06:42 UTC  

prager might be a creationist

2018-09-03 20:06:49 UTC  

but he is R E D P I L L ED

2018-09-03 23:02:25 UTC  

i hate prager

2018-09-03 23:55:57 UTC  

ya their tendency to blame everything on the Democrats is annoying. Even here he fails to understand the modern left are not liberals and never were.

2018-09-04 08:17:47 UTC  

Maybe some of us can make a similar video that explains the same thing but without Prager's brand or his politics attached to it.

2018-09-04 12:45:46 UTC  

I thought our whole thing was free association
like
If you agree with the message it doesn't matter at all who made it

2018-09-04 12:46:00 UTC  

but meh

2018-09-04 13:26:24 UTC  

Our whole thing?

2018-09-04 13:28:01 UTC  

sure why not

2018-09-04 13:41:59 UTC  

Good to know the 7 principles boil down to the same iedological spin the alt-right takes.

2018-09-04 13:59:05 UTC  

I'm not sinning the concept at all, but I doubt many people would accept the liberalist movement's 'whole thing' let alone 'our whole thing' as freedom of association?

2018-09-04 13:59:44 UTC  

There are some other good ones in there too, like Constiutional Democracy. Hard to believe in this day and age people can claim to be civilized or intelligent without having a constitution to secure their rights.

2018-09-04 14:04:20 UTC  

I dont think thats what joshua meant

2018-09-04 14:04:50 UTC  

Im assuming he said our whole thing as a turn of phrase and not as a general statement

2018-09-04 14:06:47 UTC  

Yeah. My only point was that the liberalists making their own video when one does the job fine already just to avoid the potential association with a scary conservative is a dumb idea.

2018-09-04 14:07:28 UTC  

But feel free to get triggered as much as you want by it and lump me alongside the alt-right

2018-09-04 14:08:20 UTC  

Gentlemen theres no need to resort to ad hominems now

2018-09-04 14:08:48 UTC  

Personally i see valid points for both perspectives on this like the glorious centrist i am

2018-09-04 14:09:18 UTC  

While the liberalistd do support freedom of association by and large the general public do not

2018-09-04 14:10:14 UTC  

By making our own video we can aim to bring these ideas to the public without worry of the partisan connection getting in the way

2018-09-04 14:10:27 UTC  

Most people don't seem to support freedom of speech all that much either

2018-09-04 14:10:37 UTC  

Unfortunately

2018-09-04 14:11:02 UTC  

Thats because they dont see its value

2018-09-04 14:11:24 UTC  

They assune it wont be their speech thats censored

2018-09-04 14:13:58 UTC  

Part of freedom of association is choosing who you associate with. I don't hate all of Pragers ideas, but I *personally* don't want our brand to be publicly associated with him and Prager U.

2018-09-04 14:14:59 UTC  

I didn't associate you witht he alt-right, Joshua. I observed taht saying 'our whole thing' is freedom of association when it isn't directly stated in the principles is dangerous turf.

2018-09-04 14:15:31 UTC  

I don't want to give any ideologues the idea that they can simply point at Prager, then point at us and say we're just Tradcons larping as Liberals

2018-09-04 14:15:49 UTC  

Its not like he said it at a press brief

2018-09-04 14:16:07 UTC  

Oh alright then, then I guess I am not allowed to disagree.

2018-09-04 14:16:14 UTC  

Thanks for showing me the importance of freedom of speech.

2018-09-04 14:16:20 UTC  

You guys are right, I am wrong.

2018-09-04 14:16:20 UTC  

Im saying its a misunderstanding

2018-09-04 14:16:26 UTC  

We're all about freedom of association, 100%.

2018-09-04 14:16:33 UTC  

Nothing else matters.

2018-09-04 14:16:41 UTC  

He disnt mean to say our whole thing is freedom of association

2018-09-04 14:16:45 UTC  

Democracy? Nope. Can do without it.

2018-09-04 14:16:50 UTC  

It's our whole thing.

2018-09-04 14:16:58 UTC  

I read it as him saying its part of our beliefs

2018-09-04 14:17:08 UTC  

Na our whole thing is freedom of association.

2018-09-04 14:17:15 UTC  

Why r u like this