Message from @Malign

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2019-01-30 22:17:34 UTC  

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2019-01-30 22:17:34 UTC  

In the neo-liberal pile, if CML is to be believed.

2019-01-30 22:17:41 UTC  

Well you need to argue that.

2019-01-30 22:17:56 UTC  

we can't always know if the baby is life threatening. people have abortions for far less after all. but you don't accept those

2019-01-30 22:18:08 UTC  

I never said we could.

2019-01-30 22:18:14 UTC  

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2019-01-30 22:18:32 UTC  

That's the man you're after, btw.

2019-01-30 22:18:32 UTC  

lol it's not a strawman when i'm just working out your position

2019-01-30 22:18:40 UTC  

It is when you assume it.

2019-01-30 22:18:43 UTC  

are you going to be these fallacy jerkoffs

2019-01-30 22:18:48 UTC  

You're stating positions for me, not asking what my position is.

2019-01-30 22:18:55 UTC  

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2019-01-30 22:19:33 UTC  

no, i'm trying to make sense of your stance on abortion. you drew a parallel to self-defence. that's a problem, because abortion isn't always decided on whether the baby is a threat

2019-01-30 22:19:39 UTC  

As long as you are in favor of lethal force self defense, you must, inherently, be in favor of at least 1 form of abortion. Read it slowly. I know the Canadian educational system is inferior to the USAs, but I truly believe in you.

2019-01-30 22:21:36 UTC  

ok. when a baby threatens a mother's life. but didn't you say that wasn't the form you defend

2019-01-30 22:21:47 UTC  

I never said a baby threatens a mother's life.

2019-01-30 22:22:07 UTC  

That would imply the baby is attempting to coerce the mother to a specific action, we are now giving the baby consciousness and/or motive.

2019-01-30 22:22:17 UTC  

Now it is a criminal that needs to be brought to justice.

2019-01-30 22:22:48 UTC  

Fetus policeus

2019-01-30 22:23:16 UTC  

whether it's conscious or not in some circumstances it's physically a threat to the life of the mother

2019-01-30 22:23:42 UTC  

that's the 1 form of abortion you defend is all i'm asking

2019-01-30 22:24:00 UTC  

That's the word you used, I am stating I don't agree with it. Context and language matters.

2019-01-30 22:24:32 UTC  

well i'm not trying to trap you i just want to know exactly which form of abortion you defend

2019-01-30 22:24:50 UTC  

Up to the 48th trimester. Makes grocery shopping less cluttered.

2019-01-30 22:25:20 UTC  

so you are in favor of abortion categorically...

2019-01-30 22:25:43 UTC  

I'm at least in favor of one form of abortion.

2019-01-30 22:26:03 UTC  

so if i decide "fuck having a kid" in my 48th trimester that's cool

2019-01-30 22:26:05 UTC  

?

2019-01-30 22:26:10 UTC  

state mandated retroactive abortions!

2019-01-30 22:26:15 UTC  

its the only way

2019-01-30 22:26:18 UTC  

Only if their 18+

2019-01-30 22:26:32 UTC  

yeetus that foetus

2019-01-30 22:26:39 UTC  

My argument isn't designed to convince you that my opinion on abortion is correct, it is intended to demonstrate to *most* people that argue against it that they will *always* agree to at least one form of it, or they have cognitive dissonance.

2019-01-30 22:26:46 UTC  

Argue my argument, no ad hom plox.

2019-01-30 22:27:07 UTC  

i never insulted you

2019-01-30 22:27:15 UTC  

Insult =/= ad hom.

2019-01-30 22:27:45 UTC  

Example:

You are an idiot - Insult

You are wrong because you are a Canadian. - An ad hom... And an insult.

2019-01-30 22:28:07 UTC  

Arguing my personal view of abortion will not disprove my argument against others.

2019-01-30 22:28:43 UTC  

"My argument isn't designed to convince you that my opinion on abortion is correct" isn't this kinda weird? so you have multiple, possibly contradictory opinions about things and deploy one or the other to fuck with people?