Message from @Fogmind
Discord ID: 540293891614834708
LOL!
godwins law strikes again!
In October of the same year his mom was a nazi.
YOU: yes
ELIZA: You are sure.
YOU: I am, this is a big problem.
ELIZA: Do you know anyone else who is ?
YOU: Lots of them.
ELIZA: Do you feel strongly about discussing such things ?
YOU: Not particularly.
ELIZA: Please go on.
YOU: We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.
ELIZA: What does that suggest to you ?
YOU: The Jews.
ELIZA: Does talking about this bother you ?
YOU: Not particularly.
ELIZA: Please go on.
YOU: Just worried they are listening in.
ELIZA: Are they always listening in ?
YOU: You tell me Eliza.
ELIZA: You like to think I tell you -- don't you ?
Eliza is in on it...
YOU: I would hope you would be honest with me.
ELIZA: Do you wish to would hope me ?
YOU: Is that semitic semantics?
ELIZA: Does talking about this bother you ?
YOU: How much have they paid you Eliza?
ELIZA: We were discussing you -- not me.
hellstorme the problem with your position on abortion is that your parallel with it and self-defence can't be used to justify *all* abortions
Well this is undeniable proof, the alt-right is correct. (((Fogmind))) is always listening.
I never said it could.
ELIZA: Is something troubling you ?
YOU: I want to kill myself
ELIZA: What does wanting to kill yourself have to do with this discussion ?
K then
i know. i'm saying that's what your position implies
No, my position implies what it states. Do not beg the question.
are you for abortions categorically?
I am for at least 1 kind of abortions.
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when the baby threatens the mother's life?
No.
ok well thats the kind of abortion implied by the self-defence paralle
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That would imply the 'baby' is consciously aware and choosing to do so. I am not prescribing consciousness to a bag of cells.
ok so how are you even justifying your position then
ELIZA: Is something troubling you ?
YOU: hello
ELIZA: How do you do. Please state your problem.
YOU: my car doesn't work
ELIZA: Is it important to you that your car doesn't work ?
YOU: yes
ELIZA: I understand.
YOU: Good, thanks
ELIZA: But your car doesn't work.
I can defend myself from a rabbid dog, an enraged gorilla, or a fetus with a shotgun.
ELIZA: Please tell me what's been bothering you.
YOU: I am angry all the time
ELIZA: Is it because you are angry all the time that you came to me ?
YOU: no
ELIZA: Why 'no' ?
YOU: because
ELIZA: Don't any other reasons come to mind ?
YOU: not really
ELIZA: I'm not sure I understand you fully.
YOU: no other reasons come to mind
ELIZA: Are you saying no just to be negative?
YOU: no
ELIZA: You are being a bit negative.
YOU: so are you.
ELIZA: Would you prefer if I weren't ?
but you can't know in all cases that a fetus is a danger to your life. that's the problem
Does self-defense only apply in circumstances of human vs human situations? Or is lethal self defense and expression of self preservation?
It isn't human vs human, it is me vs thatotherthingthatwillkillme
I want to kill babies with my bare hands, where does that put me?
i accept that, but your application to abortion is far too broad
In the neo-liberal pile, if CML is to be believed.
Well you need to argue that.
we can't always know if the baby is life threatening. people have abortions for far less after all. but you don't accept those