because i can fulfil every qualification of your 1st group without giving a shit about what's sacred

Then my argument isn't inherently directed at you, now is it?

then you would be venerating the sanctiy of life.

You took offense where you shouldn't because you don't understand the nature of the statement you're arguing against.

i can be for the death penalty and pro-life and not have a care in the world about sanctity.

Sure, but you don't get to say it is due to sacredness of life.

nope. it's about rights and justice

Why lead with nope?

If that send sentence is what you believe, then we could have a discussion about that, but you say 'nope' implying you CAN claim sacredness of life while ending lives.

so, explain how you get to anti abortion and pro death penalty without having a belief in the sanctity of life.

'Daisies should be protected and venerated at all costs.'

*hacks off their flowers and stems and stuffs them in a glass jar to boil in the sun on my dinner table*

Ahhhhhhhhh sacred.

You're not a real gamer if you didn't beat

you get there by recognizing that certain behaviours shouldn't be legally tolerated. sanctity of life not required. if we populate our societies with criminals who are only ever imprisoned, or women who abort their children instead of raising families, we can agree that's probably a bad deal without relying on any religious language. many libertarians believe this, i'm surprised it's so alien in a server populated by liberalists

I agree, the sanctity of life is a shit argument. It is why my argument seeks to black-face anyone use it inconsistently.

why shouldn't they be tolerated?

I think you're just arguing this badly. I mean dang, I'm probably be completely on your side of this debate, but you're just not doing this well

Raven you gotta direct that or I will vodka bottle you.

Gang gang

I agree with everyone on everything

hurray, peace on earth achieved

@Malign though

https://twitter.com/AndrewScheer/status/1090439959058640896

Vote PPC kids

vote pedro kids

https://youtu.be/IS71EDAwX1o?t=52

lol I was thinking of that

@Malign did you say you did support abortion in the case of rape though, cause you mentioned it in a vague way "many pro lifers would say..." etc

i think abortion in certain limited cases is fine. in fact in the earliest stages of pregnancy, when a fetus is indeed a "cluster of cells," i think abortion is defensible. the problem is abortion at any stage of gestation, which is what NY just passed

oof

you didn't answer my question malign.

that is where we disagree

no i didn't. you asked why criminal behaviour shouldn't be tolerated?

MY PERSONAL view has been before the third trimester... For many reasons, but protecting human life isn't going to sway me cause I think serial-pedos deserve the chair.... Not to be transferred to a different diocese.

nope, not what i asked why shouldn't certain behaviours be tolerated.

you're wondering about abortion or the death penalty

the idea of raising children is based on ...