Message from @windmill man
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it means that your brain is simply taking action without any true sense of choice
I will provide a counter argument for this
you are breathing right now I will assume
yes
normally you do not think about breathing
sure
it is done automatically
sure
but thinking just denotes awareness of my internal processes
my point is, that as soon as you become aware of your internal processes you can change them
People can breath in 2 ways
either through your belly or through your chest
except you cant just "change them"
If you move your hand on your chest and take a deep breath you will after that automatically keep breathing through your chest and visa verca
you can try it
if there is a change is was predetermined by previous stimuli
What previous stimuli?
any and all
But isn't that the base of science
That everything has a reason for it
People always act out of reason unless they have a mental disease, does that mean you do not have free will?
those with mental diseases still act based on a previous reason
Alright, sure
So everyone acts out of reason
Does that mean nobody has free will?
lets clearly define reason
Because they go for the best choice?
reason as in the intial cause responsible for consequential effects
the cause of an event or situation or something that provides an excuse or explanation:
"best choice" is just a normative claim
Yes, because it is subjective
its just that they act in relation to previous causes
i dont want to talk past you here
trust me your not
Is " act in relation to previous causes" the same as reasoning your actions here ?
no it isnt
How?
actually since mug and venus seems to be done
lets talk in vc
u heard my internet
u sure?