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and things have changed so much in only a few of those
yes but it just gave away to smaller states
And what was the Romans' most important contribution to the West?
The state
yeah romans refined statecraft
but the fact is it *fell*
and?
it feel and gave way to more states
Senate got the ruler killed
the change ancom would make would be equivalent to the fall of the roman empire, in terms of *probability* according to your argument
civilizations being coupled with a state that derives all its authority from violence is something that has existed in all of history
in fact, it would be even more probable
So I dunno
seeing as the empire lasted thousands of years
whats unlikely is a civilization existing without state entities
but again, history has changed
yes but this is a different type of change
`the change ancom would make would be equivalent to the fall of the roman empire`
so?
So ancom would make life drastically worse
as the color of the Sun turning black
i didnt establish an equivalency based on the exact change, just on its likelihood, arguing from your point
its simply unlikely
okay
picture this
a social institution existing for 2 thousand years
how likely is something so stable to change?
how do you define state entities
and being replaced by other institutions that operate on a similar basis
do you mean just hierarchies or centralized governance
no no no
not talking about what comes after
the roman empire as everyone knows it
how likely is it to change
Well, it wasn't stable
It changed a lot
it lasted 2000 years
Went through periods of instability
but it lasted 2000 years
@Loopy a political organization under one government that rules territory.