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because it would be a first in human history
but a lot of things were firsts in human history
so whats your point?
like change occurring doesnt mean that the state of reality just magically shifts
a car was never in space before
doesnt deny its possibility
Again
Technology != social order
but its the same thing
You can change our material conditions
Not our human nature
yeah but were talking about having a civilization without a state
in terms of argument
social order changes all the time
look at the roman civilization
it lasted for *centuries*
and a car been thrust into space isnt an unpredictable change
About two thousand years, yeah
and things have changed so much in only a few of those
yes but it just gave away to smaller states
The state
yeah romans refined statecraft
but the fact is it *fell*
and?
it feel and gave way to more states
Senate got the ruler killed
the change ancom would make would be equivalent to the fall of the roman empire, in terms of *probability* according to your argument
civilizations being coupled with a state that derives all its authority from violence is something that has existed in all of history
in fact, it would be even more probable
So I dunno
seeing as the empire lasted thousands of years
whats unlikely is a civilization existing without state entities
but again, history has changed
yes but this is a different type of change
`the change ancom would make would be equivalent to the fall of the roman empire`
so?
So ancom would make life drastically worse
its like me comparing a change in the color of the shirt you wear on one day to the next
as the color of the Sun turning black
i didnt establish an equivalency based on the exact change, just on its likelihood, arguing from your point