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a car was never in space before
doesnt deny its possibility
Again
Technology != social order
but its the same thing
You can change our material conditions
Not our human nature
yeah but were talking about having a civilization without a state
in terms of argument
social order changes all the time
look at the roman civilization
it lasted for *centuries*
and a car been thrust into space isnt an unpredictable change
About two thousand years, yeah
and things have changed so much in only a few of those
yes but it just gave away to smaller states
And what was the Romans' most important contribution to the West?
The state
yeah romans refined statecraft
but the fact is it *fell*
it feel and gave way to more states
Senate got the ruler killed
the change ancom would make would be equivalent to the fall of the roman empire, in terms of *probability* according to your argument
civilizations being coupled with a state that derives all its authority from violence is something that has existed in all of history
in fact, it would be even more probable
So I dunno
seeing as the empire lasted thousands of years
whats unlikely is a civilization existing without state entities
but again, history has changed
yes but this is a different type of change
`the change ancom would make would be equivalent to the fall of the roman empire`
so?
So ancom would make life drastically worse
its like me comparing a change in the color of the shirt you wear on one day to the next
as the color of the Sun turning black
i didnt establish an equivalency based on the exact change, just on its likelihood, arguing from your point
its simply unlikely
okay
picture this
a social institution existing for 2 thousand years