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but youre dealing in absolutes
cant the sun start rotating around the earth?
see how absurd it is to make the statement "cant things change"
no, but thats bound by the laws of physics, not because the sun *always rotated around the earth*
basing an argument on absolutes is simply dogma
White supremacy
laws of physics are descriptive of observable patterns not prescriptive
so actually yes
it would be the latter
no?
yes
laws of physics or just all scientific laws are descriptive of observable patterns
yeah so?
thats literally how science works
whats your point?
can you say with certainty that the sun will always rotate around the earth?
so you would be incorrect in saying observation cant be used as a metric by which we judge possibility
but again even by the metric of observation, especially negatives, a lot of arguments have been disproved
yes
but still by that metric
and we cann see why
civilizations requires order
saying "ancom will never exist because throughout all history, states have been with civilizations" is like saying
"men will never go to the moon because through all history men have never left the atmosphere"
order requires the threat and capability of violence
says who?
and that violence needs to be organized
says who?
yeah
Precedent
> order requires the threat and capability of violence
says who
as @..... said
but i can disprove it right now
Precedent
i dont need violence to get some kids in a classroom to behave
literally every interaction you have in a civilization requires it
theyll do it if i ask nicely
yes you do?
If they're disciplined, well-behaved children
Lots of kids won't do it if you ask nicely
but the point is, some did