Yeah kinda

Like an AERO, Strandhogg, etc

JPC being a "light" carrier

true but you can easily turn a JPC into something like that

literally just add shoulder pads and padding to the inside face of the platebags

fair enough

can you add crye padding to the JPC 🤔

I would say the AVS is still marginally more comfortable than my 6094

@Einhänder what do you think about the AVS since you asked

Yeah the AVS is definitely comfortable but the harness isn't that big of a game changer and arguably unnecessary vs side padding from the micro harness or just normal padding like the aero

🤷🏿

I'm skeptical as to how well the Harness actually performs in terms of load-bearing. Sure there probably an engineering argument/evidence can be made about weight destribution, but you're still adding more weight onto the individual.

Combined with other accessories such as the stkss, I haven't been really able to find good enough metrics besides anecdotal evidence as to if the harness justifies a loaded AVS being almost 2x the price of a Strandhogg. Hence that's why I'm asking around.

I do think AXL adding tubes and a velcro flaps does help the AVS & Strandhogg modernize for a lot of rigs/accessories, so there's that.

@Einhänder to the average nerd, the AVS is overkill

Yeah I agree

Its probably pretty good completely loaded down and you're in it for months on end

Thats where you notice where the harness changes things

Where you save a few pounds from lighter plates, you're throwing on an extra radio, ammo, or batteries

I mean nobody really over loads them

Yeah, but its there if you need to

I guess but that again goes back to my point of the harness being unnecessary becauae the benefits are lost on most, if not all, users

Yeah, that is a good point.

12-16 mag setups isn't that crazy and people already do them with other setups

ehhh it's pretty wack

Most medium or large carriers accommodate for it 🤷

you definitely notice the extra weight when you carry 2x of a standard combat load

and the bulk sucks, at that point there's nowhere good to put your mags

Ok what's standard load tho

12 seems pretty normal

like 7-8

12 is a lot

To carry or as a loadout

like once you start thinking about where to put the mags especially if you don't like double stacking, it sucks to go over 7-8

wym

the weight isn't crazy, like 1lb per mag

but the bulk sucks

unless half of those are in a pack

Carrying 12 mags being wack or the need for 12 mags

Being wack

Because there's plenty of ancedotal evidence saying 12 mags is pretty normal if not preferable to anyone actually doing any shooting

i mean it really depends what you're doing

there are also lots of units that never carry over 7-8