Message from @whatsthat

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2019-07-22 22:02:22 UTC  

But even then, the whole bulkiness of the AVS and it's harness is unnecessary in most cases

2019-07-22 22:02:27 UTC  

idk i would not buy an AVS except if it were for some kind of clone correct larp meme

2019-07-22 22:02:39 UTC  

i agree that it's not necessary for the vast majority of users

2019-07-22 22:03:09 UTC  

I'd even argue that it's unnecessary for basically everyone

2019-07-22 22:03:32 UTC  

i mean possibly

2019-07-22 22:03:48 UTC  

i don't carry retarded heavy loads on mine so idk how much comfort it really adds

2019-07-22 22:04:32 UTC  

The area and bulk that the AVS harness adds would be better off being soft armor 🤷🏿

2019-07-22 22:04:37 UTC  

AERO niggas can't die so...

2019-07-22 22:05:03 UTC  

i mean soft armor is still heavier and there is a big area of overlap between the harness and the platebag

2019-07-22 22:05:41 UTC  

Eh

2019-07-22 22:05:44 UTC  

anyways idk i wouldn't buy a AVS

2019-07-22 22:06:50 UTC  

But that's your opinion which doesn't validate or invalidate it's legitimacy as a "good carrier" in 2019

2019-07-22 22:08:10 UTC  

true

2019-07-22 22:08:43 UTC  

Like functionally, Crye doesn't make a "medium" carrier

2019-07-22 22:08:59 UTC  

wym medium

2019-07-22 22:09:01 UTC  

like a 6094?

2019-07-22 22:09:07 UTC  

Yeah kinda

2019-07-22 22:09:37 UTC  

Like an AERO, Strandhogg, etc

2019-07-22 22:09:52 UTC  

JPC being a "light" carrier

2019-07-22 22:10:01 UTC  

true but you can easily turn a JPC into something like that

2019-07-22 22:10:14 UTC  

literally just add shoulder pads and padding to the inside face of the platebags

2019-07-22 22:10:18 UTC  

fair enough

2019-07-22 22:10:32 UTC  

can you add crye padding to the JPC 🤔

2019-07-22 22:10:33 UTC  

I would say the AVS is still marginally more comfortable than my 6094

2019-07-22 22:10:53 UTC  

@Einhänder what do you think about the AVS since you asked

2019-07-22 22:11:34 UTC  

Yeah the AVS is definitely comfortable but the harness isn't that big of a game changer and arguably unnecessary vs side padding from the micro harness or just normal padding like the aero

2019-07-22 22:15:53 UTC  

🤷🏿

2019-07-22 22:17:53 UTC  

I'm skeptical as to how well the Harness actually performs in terms of load-bearing. Sure there probably an engineering argument/evidence can be made about weight destribution, but you're still adding more weight onto the individual.

Combined with other accessories such as the stkss, I haven't been really able to find good enough metrics besides anecdotal evidence as to if the harness justifies a loaded AVS being almost 2x the price of a Strandhogg. Hence that's why I'm asking around.

I do think AXL adding tubes and a velcro flaps does help the AVS & Strandhogg modernize for a lot of rigs/accessories, so there's that.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/558106673911169035/602987711871320085/AVS20EXTENDABLE20STKSS_04-714x840.png

2019-07-22 22:19:35 UTC  

@Einhänder to the average nerd, the AVS is overkill

2019-07-22 22:19:39 UTC  

Yeah I agree

2019-07-22 22:19:46 UTC  

Its probably pretty good completely loaded down and you're in it for months on end

2019-07-22 22:20:02 UTC  

Thats where you notice where the harness changes things

2019-07-22 22:20:38 UTC  

Where you save a few pounds from lighter plates, you're throwing on an extra radio, ammo, or batteries

2019-07-22 22:20:50 UTC  

I mean nobody really over loads them

2019-07-22 22:21:00 UTC  

Yeah, but its there if you need to

2019-07-22 22:21:38 UTC  

I guess but that again goes back to my point of the harness being unnecessary becauae the benefits are lost on most, if not all, users

2019-07-22 22:22:52 UTC  

Yeah, that is a good point.

2019-07-22 22:23:37 UTC  

12-16 mag setups isn't that crazy and people already do them with other setups

2019-07-22 22:23:45 UTC  

ehhh it's pretty wack

2019-07-22 22:24:06 UTC  

Most medium or large carriers accommodate for it 🤷

2019-07-22 22:24:08 UTC  

you definitely notice the extra weight when you carry 2x of a standard combat load