AERO niggas can't die so...

i mean soft armor is still heavier and there is a big area of overlap between the harness and the platebag

Eh

anyways idk i wouldn't buy a AVS

But that's your opinion which doesn't validate or invalidate it's legitimacy as a "good carrier" in 2019

true

Like functionally, Crye doesn't make a "medium" carrier

wym medium

like a 6094?

Yeah kinda

Like an AERO, Strandhogg, etc

JPC being a "light" carrier

true but you can easily turn a JPC into something like that

literally just add shoulder pads and padding to the inside face of the platebags

fair enough

can you add crye padding to the JPC 🤔

I would say the AVS is still marginally more comfortable than my 6094

@Einhänder what do you think about the AVS since you asked

Yeah the AVS is definitely comfortable but the harness isn't that big of a game changer and arguably unnecessary vs side padding from the micro harness or just normal padding like the aero

🤷🏿

I'm skeptical as to how well the Harness actually performs in terms of load-bearing. Sure there probably an engineering argument/evidence can be made about weight destribution, but you're still adding more weight onto the individual.

Combined with other accessories such as the stkss, I haven't been really able to find good enough metrics besides anecdotal evidence as to if the harness justifies a loaded AVS being almost 2x the price of a Strandhogg. Hence that's why I'm asking around.

I do think AXL adding tubes and a velcro flaps does help the AVS & Strandhogg modernize for a lot of rigs/accessories, so there's that.

@Einhänder to the average nerd, the AVS is overkill

Yeah I agree

Its probably pretty good completely loaded down and you're in it for months on end

Thats where you notice where the harness changes things

Where you save a few pounds from lighter plates, you're throwing on an extra radio, ammo, or batteries

I mean nobody really over loads them

Yeah, but its there if you need to

I guess but that again goes back to my point of the harness being unnecessary becauae the benefits are lost on most, if not all, users

Yeah, that is a good point.

12-16 mag setups isn't that crazy and people already do them with other setups

ehhh it's pretty wack

Most medium or large carriers accommodate for it 🤷

you definitely notice the extra weight when you carry 2x of a standard combat load

and the bulk sucks, at that point there's nowhere good to put your mags

Ok what's standard load tho

12 seems pretty normal

like 7-8

12 is a lot

To carry or as a loadout

like once you start thinking about where to put the mags especially if you don't like double stacking, it sucks to go over 7-8