Message from @CTL

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2019-07-22 22:09:01 UTC  

like a 6094?

2019-07-22 22:09:07 UTC  

Yeah kinda

2019-07-22 22:09:37 UTC  

Like an AERO, Strandhogg, etc

2019-07-22 22:09:52 UTC  

JPC being a "light" carrier

2019-07-22 22:10:01 UTC  

true but you can easily turn a JPC into something like that

2019-07-22 22:10:14 UTC  

literally just add shoulder pads and padding to the inside face of the platebags

2019-07-22 22:10:18 UTC  

fair enough

2019-07-22 22:10:32 UTC  

can you add crye padding to the JPC 🤔

2019-07-22 22:10:33 UTC  

I would say the AVS is still marginally more comfortable than my 6094

2019-07-22 22:10:53 UTC  

@Einhänder what do you think about the AVS since you asked

2019-07-22 22:11:34 UTC  

Yeah the AVS is definitely comfortable but the harness isn't that big of a game changer and arguably unnecessary vs side padding from the micro harness or just normal padding like the aero

2019-07-22 22:15:53 UTC  

🤷🏿

2019-07-22 22:17:53 UTC  

I'm skeptical as to how well the Harness actually performs in terms of load-bearing. Sure there probably an engineering argument/evidence can be made about weight destribution, but you're still adding more weight onto the individual.

Combined with other accessories such as the stkss, I haven't been really able to find good enough metrics besides anecdotal evidence as to if the harness justifies a loaded AVS being almost 2x the price of a Strandhogg. Hence that's why I'm asking around.

I do think AXL adding tubes and a velcro flaps does help the AVS & Strandhogg modernize for a lot of rigs/accessories, so there's that.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/558106673911169035/602987711871320085/AVS20EXTENDABLE20STKSS_04-714x840.png

2019-07-22 22:19:35 UTC  

@Einhänder to the average nerd, the AVS is overkill

2019-07-22 22:19:39 UTC  

Yeah I agree

2019-07-22 22:19:46 UTC  

Its probably pretty good completely loaded down and you're in it for months on end

2019-07-22 22:20:02 UTC  

Thats where you notice where the harness changes things

2019-07-22 22:20:38 UTC  

Where you save a few pounds from lighter plates, you're throwing on an extra radio, ammo, or batteries

2019-07-22 22:20:50 UTC  

I mean nobody really over loads them

2019-07-22 22:21:00 UTC  

Yeah, but its there if you need to

2019-07-22 22:21:38 UTC  

I guess but that again goes back to my point of the harness being unnecessary becauae the benefits are lost on most, if not all, users

2019-07-22 22:22:52 UTC  

Yeah, that is a good point.

2019-07-22 22:23:37 UTC  

12-16 mag setups isn't that crazy and people already do them with other setups

2019-07-22 22:23:45 UTC  

ehhh it's pretty wack

2019-07-22 22:24:06 UTC  

Most medium or large carriers accommodate for it 🤷

2019-07-22 22:24:08 UTC  

you definitely notice the extra weight when you carry 2x of a standard combat load

2019-07-22 22:24:24 UTC  

and the bulk sucks, at that point there's nowhere good to put your mags

2019-07-22 22:25:06 UTC  

Ok what's standard load tho

2019-07-22 22:25:12 UTC  

12 seems pretty normal

2019-07-22 22:25:33 UTC  

like 7-8

2019-07-22 22:25:35 UTC  

12 is a lot

2019-07-22 22:25:58 UTC  

To carry or as a loadout

2019-07-22 22:26:03 UTC  

like once you start thinking about where to put the mags especially if you don't like double stacking, it sucks to go over 7-8

2019-07-22 22:26:06 UTC  

wym

2019-07-22 22:26:18 UTC  

the weight isn't crazy, like 1lb per mag

2019-07-22 22:26:23 UTC  

but the bulk sucks

2019-07-22 22:26:27 UTC  

unless half of those are in a pack

2019-07-22 22:26:30 UTC  

Carrying 12 mags being wack or the need for 12 mags

2019-07-22 22:27:03 UTC  

Being wack

2019-07-22 22:29:39 UTC  

Because there's plenty of ancedotal evidence saying 12 mags is pretty normal if not preferable to anyone actually doing any shooting

2019-07-22 22:30:35 UTC  

i mean it really depends what you're doing