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2017-05-22 07:56:01 UTC  

I will. Thanks for the chat.

2017-05-22 07:58:46 UTC  

Science of materialism is the best anti-fascist method, I think.

2017-05-22 07:59:02 UTC  

It worked for me.

2017-05-22 07:59:41 UTC  

And this guy.

2017-05-22 08:02:22 UTC

2017-05-23 01:41:16 UTC  

1. What is the role of propaganda? What are its aims and how should it be used?
2. What would be the Party policy on donations and other contributions of funds? How should they be used?

2017-05-23 01:45:48 UTC  

1.) The role of propaganda should be to agitate and raise class consciousness against the bourgeoisie.

2017-05-23 01:46:33 UTC  

2.) The Party should reject donations from billionaires (obviously) and from large sources. Should only accept small contributions and dues. They should be used to strengthen the party organizationally, to create more outreach, and to develop programs that benefit the poor/working class and win them to our side.

2017-05-23 01:47:53 UTC  

in my humble opinion.

2017-05-23 01:49:18 UTC  

Full agree

2017-05-23 02:37:46 UTC  

@Deleted User Danke. I am happy with these answers.

2017-05-23 02:38:58 UTC  

no problem

2017-05-23 03:21:07 UTC  

What country would be one of the easiest to implement socialism in while being one that thrives the most under socialism

2017-05-23 06:41:41 UTC  

Q: Is it possible to have an international Party or can there be only national Parties?

2017-05-23 06:59:52 UTC  

i think it would be possible to have an international party

2017-05-23 07:05:23 UTC  

So do i

2017-05-23 07:05:41 UTC  

Maybe it would have people elected by national parties

2017-05-23 07:05:52 UTC  

That seems like a logical system

2017-05-23 07:06:14 UTC  

And then those at the top vote who the leader of the international party is

2017-05-23 07:06:38 UTC  

But the question is how much power should this party have I would say

2017-05-23 07:59:39 UTC  

@Hezbolshevik As a side note: democracy is a lie. Elections and voting are empty formalities that only sway people away from the correct course of action. In fact, it is a good way to prevent the truth by replacing it with consensus. If there is not question about the truth, if it is intellectually established, then there is no need to vote on it. Similarly, the most class-conscious and politically intelligent people, can be measured and shown without voting. Consensus is a distraction from correct practice and lets false consciousness take root. This must be protected through the authority of the most advance Party members.

2017-05-23 08:03:58 UTC  

So what will national parties pick random names from hats for international party admin?

2017-05-23 08:04:54 UTC  

And I mean voting within the upper echelon of the national party for international admin

2017-05-23 08:04:58 UTC  
2017-05-23 08:07:47 UTC  

@Hezbolshevik No, instead of elections or random choice, the position of the international party admin will just be given to the most capable person, objectively measured.

2017-05-23 08:09:54 UTC  

Democracy clouds the process. If you want the best person for the job then just give the job to the best person, without voting.

2017-05-23 08:14:04 UTC  

Select who has the historical precedent for the most effective and scientific theory and practice. Not the best speaker. Not the best comedian. Not the cleverest talker. Selection should be based on strict and principled past successes in the intellectual field and in practical action.

2017-05-23 08:18:01 UTC  

So how are they selected (as in through what means not what qualities they must have)and who are the people deciding who is selected?

2017-05-23 08:25:10 UTC  

Class consciousness is held strongest in the most revolutionary. There can only be one kind of class consciousness because it is objective reality. It is realised in the joining of theory and practice, i.e. when you have correct ideas and action, class consciousness increases, and since revolution is inevitable, the most successful revolutionaries also have the clearest sense of class consciousness (in a union of theory and practice). The leaders are self-evident. This is why Lenin implemented Vanguardism. This is why Stalin took power, not Trotsky, because his theory and practice was better.

2017-05-23 08:26:43 UTC  

It is not that leaders are hard to find, or struggle to prove themselves. It is false consciousness that does not follow them.

2017-05-23 08:26:58 UTC  

And if they are wrong, they will not succeed.

2017-05-23 08:27:55 UTC  

So naturally the leaders best at what they do would become apparent and subsequently gain power?

2017-05-23 08:28:37 UTC  

Atleast under the right conditions

2017-05-23 08:31:51 UTC  

Class consciousness is not given, it has to be worked for. So when the majority cannot recognise authority, what do you do then? The smart thing to do is support the leader.

2017-05-23 08:36:14 UTC  

Of course, all individuals are at different levels of development. It is true some are better at following orders. Others, have great ideas but have no sense how to implement them. I am sure there are great individuals out there, but no one will listen or act. Then the important thing is to build class consciousness in others, until you get a critical mass to reach the next level of development. I sense most of those with ambitions for revolution are an the early stage. Revolution is coming, but it is not here yet.

2017-05-23 08:38:13 UTC  

At the theory state, it is easy to get distracted about 'what we will do when', but getting there. see what it is like and actually deciding what to do is different. The dialectical process guides it, not out dogmatic assumptions about democracy or consensus. Who are we to say, who have not walked in the shoes to show how it is done?

2017-05-23 08:40:23 UTC  

One more thing, bringing people together under one banner is the highest priority because it builds class consciousness. Those who fracture and split away are certainly lost. There is only one objective reality.

2017-05-23 08:40:53 UTC  

The battering ram has many goes to bring the gates down.

2017-05-23 08:42:33 UTC  

How arrogant do you have to be, to go against all evidences that a process is working, because you know better or have a new idea?

2017-05-23 17:35:10 UTC  

Cheers, comrades. The backlog made for a foot or two of good reading.

2017-05-23 17:39:43 UTC  

I'm writing an article on Malthusianism; that is, a cute phrase for overpopultion theory and the various racist and classist ideologies that have underpinned it historically, Thomas Malthus being the biggest case in point(and sworn enemy of his contemporary Marx). The overpopulation meme seems to be every random jerk's way of neatly wrapping up every social or political discussion in a nice little misanthropic package that hand-waves all structural problems and attributes everything to there just being "too many people, man". I'm trying to show concisely and in a readable way how wrong the assumption is that overpopulation is just "reality" and arguments based around it are purely scientific and transcend ideology; that in fact it's a part of one of the most pernicious ideologies ever spawned. Anyone have any good thoughts, rebuttals?