Message from @National Trotskyist

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2018-12-13 11:25:57 UTC  

It's strange they and Bolivia like hentai.

2018-12-13 11:26:18 UTC  

Either way the reason America was so hostile against communism is because of the ussr's global call for communist revolution of course

2018-12-13 11:26:34 UTC  

They already had to worry about cuba too

2018-12-13 11:26:45 UTC  

and you know how that ended up like

2018-12-13 11:26:56 UTC  

Yeah they also persecuted other ideologically different parties before.

2018-12-13 11:27:15 UTC  

I think there was persecution of fascism and Japanese citizens during WWII for example.

2018-12-13 11:27:47 UTC  

The thing is they not only opposed open communists, but also various other strains of leftism. Which was largely unaligned to the USSR.

2018-12-13 11:28:04 UTC  

Really? Like?

2018-12-13 11:28:24 UTC  

I believe even theology of liberation, which wasn't open to communists, due to their persecution of religion.

2018-12-13 11:28:31 UTC  

("Contras" of Nicaragua.)

2018-12-13 11:28:52 UTC  

No as in what other parties

2018-12-13 11:29:03 UTC  

the fascism and japanese seems justified to me though

2018-12-13 11:29:32 UTC  

With what happened at pearl harbor

2018-12-13 11:29:39 UTC  

and the japanese traitors

2018-12-13 11:29:48 UTC  

What other parties. There were few really.
I believe either German US Bund, or US First of Lindbergh were persecuted. The latter were against war with Germany, much like Mosley in Britain.

2018-12-13 11:30:02 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/313606549543190528/522736955734360064/FDR_fishing_with_Oswald_Mosley.jpg

2018-12-13 11:30:09 UTC  

german us bund? What's that?

2018-12-13 11:30:17 UTC  

Japanese citizens were persecuted in horrible way and racist caricatures were used against Japanese in general.

2018-12-13 11:30:19 UTC  

Always found that hilarious.

2018-12-13 11:30:37 UTC  

It was NSDAP-approved German US party.

2018-12-13 11:30:49 UTC  

Funny, as "Bund" was generally name of Yiddish parties opposed to Zionism.

2018-12-13 11:30:54 UTC  

So were the germans in war times

2018-12-13 11:30:59 UTC  

The japs were ruthless

2018-12-13 11:31:32 UTC  

NSDAP? That explains it

2018-12-13 11:31:40 UTC  

Yeah they wer their satellite.

2018-12-13 11:32:02 UTC  

Any unjustified persecutions though?

2018-12-13 11:33:39 UTC  

Outside of that, I don't think so. But as you can see not just communist movements were persecuted.
Fascism didn't had broadly such a support in Latin America, for them to overthrow such governments.
You had... I think, Peronists, where many nazis fled (such as "Hitler fled to Argentina" thing CIA files released), Integralists of Brazil who never took power, Falangists of Latin America and I think that's all really.
Strasser also fled to Canada, Canada had its own BUF and NatSoc movement.

2018-12-13 11:34:18 UTC  

Out of those only Juan Peron was really in power.

2018-12-13 11:34:59 UTC  

Ah so the US didnt do anything evil to latin america then

2018-12-13 11:38:26 UTC  

US wanted to dominate the American continent (per Manifest destiny and Monroe doctrine), during the Cold War they were couping democratically elected governments and installing horrible dictators which were much worse (you should read on the tortures of death squads /pol/ memes about today). Which were largely rising to power, because US&A fucked over their countries in the first place. As during the Cristero Wars, where US&A aided anti-clerical government of PRI in sending Protestant missionaries to the country.
I think they're hypocritical in that they pretend to be beacon of democracy, but were funding dictators.

If it was just ovethrowing communist governments, people wouldn't mind it so much really.

2018-12-13 11:39:21 UTC  

But they didn't ovethrow Cuba, only Grenada.

2018-12-13 11:39:39 UTC  

They tried to assassinate Castro numerous times, tho.

2018-12-13 11:42:01 UTC  

I always find it hilarious how US and NATO are so over non-aligned nations (Yugoslavia, Libya, Ba'athists), but the two Comintern members - Cuba and North Korea, are very much still left.

2018-12-13 11:42:27 UTC  

Much worse for the latin americans you mean, not the american people and safety

2018-12-13 11:44:06 UTC  

Hmm...

2018-12-13 11:45:01 UTC  

I hate non aligned nations

2018-12-13 11:45:08 UTC  

Why is so?

2018-12-13 11:45:11 UTC  

Not fond of neutrals

2018-12-13 11:45:15 UTC  

brb

2018-12-13 11:45:15 UTC  

Hahahah.