If you would be in poverty without being a wage-slave, then yes, it is involuntary

Which is the situation most people would be in under capitalism

@killsometime someone points a gun at you and says "pay the rent or get out"

@Firefly That dosen't happen though.

That is because you signed a contract **voluntarily** saying you will pay X amount per month to live there

@killsometime No, it happens without contract

Give me one person in history that allows someone to rent anywhere without a contract

Just one

Literally one

@killsometime To be fair, sometimes it is more obligitory, than it is voluntary.

@maostravelagent who are the “most people” living in poverty under capitalism in America?

@killsometime 300 million people lived in USSR rent free

@koifish Niggers.

@Firefly And the others?

Right, and we all saw the world class living standards they had in the Soviet Union...

Under communism....

@killsometime Got to love living in a glorified closet.

@Firefly you’re right. What I’d give to live rent free in the Soviet Union...

@killsometime Most people had more space per capita than in Japan, Holland or most capitalist countries

With free heating, almost free gas

almost free electricity

@Firefly But those things are usually paid for you if you are renting.

^^^^

You still agree to live and work in the Soviet Union. Not cause trouble and follow the law. You are technically still living with a contract

Just a different one

And you agree to not question the human rights violations done by the government

If you break your contract... you get shipped to Siberia

You are not forced out of the apartment if you don't pay

@killsometime If you do not agree voluntarily, then you will be put into a hole in the ground.

@Firefly Bullshit.

Because you actually don't pay, lol

You don't even need to pay

@Firefly would you rather live in the USSR or the USA

@Firefly Wow, what a conveluded way to state that.

@koifish I lived in USSR. Most people who did want it back

@Firefly And, in reality, would you really like to live in a glorified closet that has barely enough room to sleep in? While everything else is shared?

@Firefly you have any evidence to back up that most former Soviet citizens wanna go back to the good old days?

@Firefly While they may be "free", your living conditions were significantly downgraded.

What you don't pay for with money, you pay for with forced labor.

@Firefly I don't give a damn what blogpost with exaggerated polling states, the USSR was still shit.