Message from @Shada
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before killing himself
just to destroy
because he lost a case
Again, these are Other Problems
That should be addressed on their own
true
Also, if you change the prison system to something like Norway's you'll have even less problems with people trying to escape
idk people should be tortured if the crime is heinous enough (ok this part is saracasm)
i mean a system based off recovery does make sense
i think the problem here lies not with the punishment itself
but with people who want that criminal to pay
Honestly the problem lies with why the person did what they did, and the worse the crime they do the more we should be trying to figure out why so we can make sure it doesn't happen again
sometimes theres nothing
which is horifying
Alternatively, that's the easy answer we tell ourselves to try and stave off the idea that we're all one sufficiently and specifically bad day away from doing terrible things
And we just haven't found out the real reason because people are hard to figure out
the reason i say its impossible is because were all one bad day away because it could be ANYONE
your mom your brother your neighbor your cousin a stranger
you get my point
... actually, you know what, I disagree with what I just said. Because I just remembered that humans are really bad at realizing that problems build over time
yes but what about those who do it for fun
people are multiple entities
who do things for multiple reasons
I didn't say this was easy
i want zero percent crime rate
I'm saying its inherently worth it
Punishment doesn't work, psychology has worked when we have applied it after studying what we need to.
Sociology works too
We might find out in the search that its impossible to get a 0% crime rate, but if we do find that out we can find out what the next best thing is
punishment makes us feel good
it makes us get to have justice
What is justice but making sure a crime won't be committed again?
sometimes justice is mob rule and vengeance ya know why police frame people
vengence
they see they did something bad so they frame them for something else
people inheriently go for vengence
because to us it seems correct to rape the rapist or kill the killer
were a scary species
I agree we're a scary species. I agree we desire vengeance on an almost primal level. I disagree that its something we should allow, or even that we should want it.
What is vengeance but a world full of blind people