Didn't Alan Watts say something like we are the universe experiencing itself?

Yeah he did

Would you consider it to be true?

I believe it to be.

Well I also used to practice a lot of meditation

As do I. With music mainly.

So yes that in my experience seemed to reflect a possible truth

but who knows

hi

You have to see for yourself I guess

Hmm I can understand that experience. And relate to it in a sense.

Yes its a surprisingly familiar one when you have it

I like to acquire as much knowledge as I can. Which is why I enjoy deep philosophical discussions such as this.

Hello @Gosta

Yeah hey,

yeah well it certainly helped me overcome my own nihilism

If I was a nihilist I'd still play the game and stand by my morals for sure.

Just in case I was wrong.

Real nihilism is pretty painful

For who? The self or others?

Or both?

I find true nihilism pretty sad.

to really contemplate meaninglessness

is quite painful

the condition of the heroin user

I wouldn't find it painful to be honest.

Well the human condition is painful

In what sense?

We suffer emotions, delusions, sickness, age, death

To adapt and evolve you'll need to suffer.

How else could we possibly experience the universe?

I don't see an alternative way of living. But at least most of us can experience the beauty of our universe and be happy.

well this is pretty central to a lot of philosophy, west and east

How do you deal with the suffering

how do you go about living this

its not an easy one

Isolation to be honest.

I mean I'm my own worst enemy and best friend so that's basically how I deal with it.

well psychoanalysis has a good take on this too

But when I actually deal with it properly I pretend to be someone Im not in order to fit in more.