and sure we have complex experience of it

but ultimately

it is just experience

Nothing more

so we aren't seperate

me and you are the same thing

The same experience

Different brains with different data

but ultimately its an illusion we are seperate

Now thats just an experience

But a thought provoking one if nothing more

try to imagine experience without thought

Didn't Alan Watts say something like we are the universe experiencing itself?

Yeah he did

Would you consider it to be true?

I believe it to be.

Well I also used to practice a lot of meditation

As do I. With music mainly.

So yes that in my experience seemed to reflect a possible truth

but who knows

hi

You have to see for yourself I guess

Hmm I can understand that experience. And relate to it in a sense.

Yes its a surprisingly familiar one when you have it

I like to acquire as much knowledge as I can. Which is why I enjoy deep philosophical discussions such as this.

Hello @Gosta

Yeah hey,

yeah well it certainly helped me overcome my own nihilism

If I was a nihilist I'd still play the game and stand by my morals for sure.

Just in case I was wrong.

Real nihilism is pretty painful

For who? The self or others?

Or both?

I find true nihilism pretty sad.

to really contemplate meaninglessness

is quite painful

the condition of the heroin user

I wouldn't find it painful to be honest.

Well the human condition is painful

In what sense?

We suffer emotions, delusions, sickness, age, death