Message from @maostravelagent

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2018-05-14 02:43:31 UTC  

^no true scottsman

2018-05-14 02:43:59 UTC  

The harder you work and the more productive you are working and the more you benefit people the richer you become usually.

2018-05-14 02:44:19 UTC  

You're the one making the strawmans.

2018-05-14 02:45:04 UTC  

The boss doesn't work at all, and yet he gets the largest portion of the profit. Your wage is subtracted.

2018-05-14 02:45:09 UTC  

The boss does.

2018-05-14 02:45:30 UTC  

No. He doesn't make the things his company sells, the workers do.

2018-05-14 02:45:30 UTC  

The boss is the most important in the business.

2018-05-14 02:45:53 UTC  

His workers sell while he employs them and gives them instructions and leads them

2018-05-14 02:46:05 UTC  

and thats just a handful of what they do

2018-05-14 02:46:12 UTC  

some also sell and some dont

2018-05-14 02:46:41 UTC  

Are all communists so upset and jealous of their bosses?

2018-05-14 02:47:08 UTC  

No. We just recognise that their mere existance is immoral.

2018-05-14 02:47:30 UTC  

Then be self employed

2018-05-14 02:48:06 UTC  

If everyone could do that then capitalism would collapse

2018-05-14 02:48:06 UTC  

Or just make a family business

2018-05-14 02:48:18 UTC  

No it wouldnt

2018-05-14 02:48:22 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/445417060516888587/image.jpg

2018-05-14 02:48:25 UTC  

since everyone can do that

2018-05-14 02:48:34 UTC  

It just takes a lot of skill to do so

2018-05-14 02:48:38 UTC  

I assume

2018-05-14 02:48:44 UTC  

You assume

2018-05-14 02:49:26 UTC  

I assume it takes a lot of skill to be self employed yes.

2018-05-14 02:50:47 UTC  

I could obviously be wrong though.

2018-05-14 02:50:51 UTC  

The economic conditions you're born into signifigantly effect your oppurtunities. If the opposite were true then everyone would be pulling themselves up by their bootstraps, which of course isn't true.

2018-05-14 02:52:16 UTC  

It can effect your oppurtunities yes but you can still be successful and rich if you try.

2018-05-14 02:53:24 UTC  

My grandad started off going to england for a job then came back with a shoe and a pound or something. Then he climbed the ladder by working very hard and did so until he died. Now my family is rich.

2018-05-14 02:53:39 UTC  

Only like 1 in 10 people in the lower class end up making six figures. Surely the other 9 were trying hard enough and weren't lucky enough.

2018-05-14 02:53:51 UTC  

And this was very long ago and in Ireland.

2018-05-14 02:54:06 UTC  

Well good for your family

2018-05-14 02:54:06 UTC  

From where?

2018-05-14 02:54:34 UTC  

It's not all about luck, its mainly about skill.

2018-05-14 02:54:40 UTC  

In the US. It's a broad assesment but it's modt likely based in truth

2018-05-14 02:54:51 UTC  

Skill that is usually acquired in school.

2018-05-14 02:55:17 UTC  

Yet most of the people in america arent lower class I assume.

2018-05-14 02:55:47 UTC  

Not all skilled people get rich. Nikola Tesla died starving and in poverty and he contirbuted greatly to science.

2018-05-14 02:56:35 UTC  

That's true but that was also another time too. Perhaps if he contributed during these days he'd gain a lot I imagine.

2018-05-14 02:57:04 UTC  

But in general most skilled people get jobs and dont die of poverty.

2018-05-14 02:57:17 UTC  

Not sure about back then but nowadays they certainly do.

2018-05-14 02:58:01 UTC  

There are still skilled people who just arent lucky enough or dont have jobs available or just have to support their family or something.

2018-05-14 02:58:23 UTC  

But in the end most people generally dont suffer the same faith, especially the skilled and educated.

2018-05-14 02:58:57 UTC  

Fun fact: the word "meritocracy" was invented in 1958 by English writer Michael Young for satirical purposes.