"Muh human nature"
We make a distinction between private and personal property. When we say we want to abolish private property, we mean that no one person should "own" a factory or a farm because it's naturally exploitative. Personal property is things like your house, your belongings, your phone, your car. We know that people want to have their own stuff so under communism you'd still have your own stuff.

So is having many people owning property.

You still have your own stuff except for your own businesses

No. We don't like slavery of course

And yes

Yes because giving people jobs is totally slavery

"slave
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noun
1.
(especially in the past) a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them."

I thought you were saying slavery. We don't think working is slavery. We think that working for a wage subtracted from the value of labor you produce.

Is slavery

Fuck me

Subtracted? That's not capitalism

that's the exact opposite of capitalism

^no true scottsman

The harder you work and the more productive you are working and the more you benefit people the richer you become usually.

You're the one making the strawmans.

The boss doesn't work at all, and yet he gets the largest portion of the profit. Your wage is subtracted.

The boss does.

No. He doesn't make the things his company sells, the workers do.

The boss is the most important in the business.

His workers sell while he employs them and gives them instructions and leads them

and thats just a handful of what they do

some also sell and some dont

Are all communists so upset and jealous of their bosses?

No. We just recognise that their mere existance is immoral.

Then be self employed

If everyone could do that then capitalism would collapse

Or just make a family business

No it wouldnt

since everyone can do that

It just takes a lot of skill to do so

I assume

You assume

I assume it takes a lot of skill to be self employed yes.

I could obviously be wrong though.

The economic conditions you're born into signifigantly effect your oppurtunities. If the opposite were true then everyone would be pulling themselves up by their bootstraps, which of course isn't true.

It can effect your oppurtunities yes but you can still be successful and rich if you try.

My grandad started off going to england for a job then came back with a shoe and a pound or something. Then he climbed the ladder by working very hard and did so until he died. Now my family is rich.

Only like 1 in 10 people in the lower class end up making six figures. Surely the other 9 were trying hard enough and weren't lucky enough.

And this was very long ago and in Ireland.

Well good for your family