Message from @NeoFuturist

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2020-01-21 03:25:39 UTC  

whatever people are watching is something that they are attracted to and i've seen it in my personal life how interests can be a pipeline to something greater

2020-01-21 03:26:55 UTC  

@McFansy Again, does it mean we should fly Third Reich imagery and shout edgy rhetoric to convince more people to join us? This is what Braving Ruin was talking about.

2020-01-21 03:27:19 UTC  

That argument is further reinforced by the Parse the Noise video.

2020-01-21 03:27:33 UTC  

third reich imagery is heretical in this society, no one wants to be a heretic

2020-01-21 03:27:40 UTC  

I've never said anything about flying the windmill flag.

2020-01-21 03:28:00 UTC  

They Branded the proud boys as nazis.

2020-01-21 03:28:03 UTC  

we might be confusing aesthetics and optics, even if they are related

2020-01-21 03:28:05 UTC  

I said that as an example.

2020-01-21 03:28:21 UTC  

They can use their megaphone to brand anyone as a nazi.

2020-01-21 03:28:27 UTC  

and most people will believe it.

2020-01-21 03:29:10 UTC  

That’s the point of optics, to make it so the people won’t believe it

2020-01-21 03:29:18 UTC  

We cannot play nice and they will avoid attacking us. They WILL attack us no matter what

2020-01-21 03:29:36 UTC  

even if we get Based Blackguys to shout our opinions from the rooftops

2020-01-21 03:30:15 UTC  

i could never see my father rallying around *andrew anglin*. i could see my father rallying around tucker carlson

2020-01-21 03:30:22 UTC  

It’s Okay to Be White was a perfect example. Because it was the media having a hysterical reaction to something completely reasonable and inoffensive to the general public

2020-01-21 03:30:27 UTC  

yeah no shit

2020-01-21 03:30:46 UTC  

"YEaH, JeWs won't RePlaCe uS"! "BlOoD aNd SoIL!"
- Some people in the Charlottesville Rally.

2020-01-21 03:30:52 UTC  

optics != respectability though. It may correlate to it but it's not 1:1

2020-01-21 03:31:31 UTC  

maybe i misunderstand optics. i though optics is about how people see you and what you present to the world is part of that

2020-01-21 03:31:42 UTC  

@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) They were marching to save a confederate statue, What could they have done to get the Media not to attack them?

2020-01-21 03:31:44 UTC  

respectability is part of that isn't it?

2020-01-21 03:31:45 UTC  

Point being if the media smears something as racist, when it very clearly is not then the smear backfires. Optics is all about making sure the smear does not register

2020-01-21 03:32:28 UTC  

@NeoFuturist Respectability is much more important than optics. You can dress nice all you want but if no one respects you it doesn't matter

2020-01-21 03:32:56 UTC  

@Zemo How many times has that happened?

2020-01-21 03:32:56 UTC  

To be clear, I'm not denying the possibility that there might have been feds but as far as I can tell, I don't know whether there were as such at all.

2020-01-21 03:33:38 UTC  

@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) I'm not going to blame feds for all of it. It was still a bad look, but looks aren't everything

2020-01-21 03:34:10 UTC  

is optics just the exterior than? I think it's more complicated than that

2020-01-21 03:34:18 UTC  

@Zemo They called Zimmerman a white hispanic.

2020-01-21 03:34:28 UTC  

and bleached his face

2020-01-21 03:34:38 UTC  

the wignat mentality is not only an exterior, it's a certain kind of philosophy that lacks respectability right?

2020-01-21 03:34:41 UTC  

and got away with it for the most part.

2020-01-21 03:35:03 UTC  

Not really. Everyone who talks about optics is literally hiding something behind a nice exterior. Its not about changing their core beliefs or end goal to be more palatable. its about dressing up for the public

2020-01-21 03:35:05 UTC  

Looks aren’t everything, but they aren’t nothing either. We live in the television era, everything’s recorded and filmed for all to see. We can’t afford looking bad

2020-01-21 03:35:30 UTC  

@Zemo They control the framing not you.

2020-01-21 03:35:52 UTC  

Here is a good video on this subject as a refresher. @NeoFuturist

2020-01-21 03:35:59 UTC  

thx

2020-01-21 03:36:09 UTC  

Don’t feed them the ammunition they need to smear you is what we’re saying

2020-01-21 03:36:32 UTC  

Then you can't engage with them. If you engage, they WILL smear you.

2020-01-21 03:36:38 UTC  

^

2020-01-21 03:36:56 UTC  

Just repeating some basic beliefs will give them ammunition.