Message from @NeoFuturist

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2020-01-21 03:30:46 UTC  

"YEaH, JeWs won't RePlaCe uS"! "BlOoD aNd SoIL!"
- Some people in the Charlottesville Rally.

2020-01-21 03:30:52 UTC  

optics != respectability though. It may correlate to it but it's not 1:1

2020-01-21 03:31:31 UTC  

maybe i misunderstand optics. i though optics is about how people see you and what you present to the world is part of that

2020-01-21 03:31:42 UTC  

@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) They were marching to save a confederate statue, What could they have done to get the Media not to attack them?

2020-01-21 03:31:44 UTC  

respectability is part of that isn't it?

2020-01-21 03:31:45 UTC  

Point being if the media smears something as racist, when it very clearly is not then the smear backfires. Optics is all about making sure the smear does not register

2020-01-21 03:32:28 UTC  

@NeoFuturist Respectability is much more important than optics. You can dress nice all you want but if no one respects you it doesn't matter

2020-01-21 03:32:56 UTC  

@Zemo How many times has that happened?

2020-01-21 03:32:56 UTC  

To be clear, I'm not denying the possibility that there might have been feds but as far as I can tell, I don't know whether there were as such at all.

2020-01-21 03:33:38 UTC  

@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) I'm not going to blame feds for all of it. It was still a bad look, but looks aren't everything

2020-01-21 03:34:10 UTC  

is optics just the exterior than? I think it's more complicated than that

2020-01-21 03:34:18 UTC  

@Zemo They called Zimmerman a white hispanic.

2020-01-21 03:34:28 UTC  

and bleached his face

2020-01-21 03:34:38 UTC  

the wignat mentality is not only an exterior, it's a certain kind of philosophy that lacks respectability right?

2020-01-21 03:34:41 UTC  

and got away with it for the most part.

2020-01-21 03:35:03 UTC  

Not really. Everyone who talks about optics is literally hiding something behind a nice exterior. Its not about changing their core beliefs or end goal to be more palatable. its about dressing up for the public

2020-01-21 03:35:05 UTC  

Looks aren’t everything, but they aren’t nothing either. We live in the television era, everything’s recorded and filmed for all to see. We can’t afford looking bad

2020-01-21 03:35:30 UTC  

@Zemo They control the framing not you.

2020-01-21 03:35:52 UTC  

Here is a good video on this subject as a refresher. @NeoFuturist

2020-01-21 03:35:59 UTC  

thx

2020-01-21 03:36:09 UTC  

Don’t feed them the ammunition they need to smear you is what we’re saying

2020-01-21 03:36:32 UTC  

Then you can't engage with them. If you engage, they WILL smear you.

2020-01-21 03:36:38 UTC  

^

2020-01-21 03:36:56 UTC  

Just repeating some basic beliefs will give them ammunition.

2020-01-21 03:39:04 UTC  

No ones ever denied the smear will happen, but making sure you don’t look or say anything suspect will give you a better chance of the smear backfiring

2020-01-21 03:39:44 UTC  

They control the framing. It doesn't matter if you look amazing, they can still lie about you or not even show you.

2020-01-21 03:39:46 UTC  

Or not registering

2020-01-21 03:40:50 UTC  

"Im against gay marriage"
---- In a homophobic speech X said that he was against fundamental human rights

2020-01-21 03:41:17 UTC  

When you control what everyone sees, they only see what you want them to

2020-01-21 03:41:44 UTC  

"Kill all faggots"
--- In a homophobic speech X said that he was against fundamental human rights, except it validates their narrative

2020-01-21 03:42:08 UTC  

The result is the same

2020-01-21 03:42:25 UTC  

Its a distinction without much of a difference

2020-01-21 03:42:25 UTC  

yes but one is going to legitimize them more than the other

2020-01-21 03:42:40 UTC  

its going to make it harder to rally around that person

2020-01-21 03:42:42 UTC  

They already have the legitimacy

2020-01-21 03:42:57 UTC  

you arnt taking if from them

2020-01-21 03:42:59 UTC  

They have the frame not the legitimacy

2020-01-21 03:43:01 UTC  

this is the status quo

2020-01-21 03:43:16 UTC  

Those who have the frame have the legitimacy

2020-01-21 03:43:18 UTC  

@Zemo not much of a difference in practicality