i think an amazing way of building bridges to those sympathetic to the right wing is the arts.

Morgoth Lives for videos is English hard right

@NeoFuturist This is the key. Art

yes

nick is useful for redpilling normies but nothing much more then that

its a shame hes a degenerate though

I've always been attracted to fascist and german "art", especially in the uniforms, music, and architecture

yeah the germans had some great art

they had an arts revolution after the degenerate modern art of the weimar republic

I'd say that was my pipeline to questioning democracy, liberalism, and the whole lot

but think about the books and movies people watch

@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) I think the main reason why I think fighting over optics is more or less useless is because we don't control the camera or framing. The Media does, the Culture does. If we controlled those things then maybe we would get a fair shake.

*that's what people aspire to*

they see the marvel people, stephen king, anime shows

whatever people are watching is something that they are attracted to and i've seen it in my personal life how interests can be a pipeline to something greater

@McFansy Again, does it mean we should fly Third Reich imagery and shout edgy rhetoric to convince more people to join us? This is what Braving Ruin was talking about.

That argument is further reinforced by the Parse the Noise video.

third reich imagery is heretical in this society, no one wants to be a heretic

I've never said anything about flying the windmill flag.

They Branded the proud boys as nazis.

we might be confusing aesthetics and optics, even if they are related

I said that as an example.

They can use their megaphone to brand anyone as a nazi.

and most people will believe it.

That’s the point of optics, to make it so the people won’t believe it

We cannot play nice and they will avoid attacking us. They WILL attack us no matter what

even if we get Based Blackguys to shout our opinions from the rooftops

i could never see my father rallying around *andrew anglin*. i could see my father rallying around tucker carlson

It’s Okay to Be White was a perfect example. Because it was the media having a hysterical reaction to something completely reasonable and inoffensive to the general public

yeah no shit

"YEaH, JeWs won't RePlaCe uS"! "BlOoD aNd SoIL!"
- Some people in the Charlottesville Rally.

optics != respectability though. It may correlate to it but it's not 1:1

maybe i misunderstand optics. i though optics is about how people see you and what you present to the world is part of that

@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) They were marching to save a confederate statue, What could they have done to get the Media not to attack them?

respectability is part of that isn't it?

Point being if the media smears something as racist, when it very clearly is not then the smear backfires. Optics is all about making sure the smear does not register

@NeoFuturist Respectability is much more important than optics. You can dress nice all you want but if no one respects you it doesn't matter

@Zemo How many times has that happened?

To be clear, I'm not denying the possibility that there might have been feds but as far as I can tell, I don't know whether there were as such at all.

@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) I'm not going to blame feds for all of it. It was still a bad look, but looks aren't everything

is optics just the exterior than? I think it's more complicated than that