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So capitalism is natural because plutocracy? Trickle down economics?

I'm not sure I'm following how this makes capitalism 1) natural or 2) a good thing

Look up free market communism

Look up worker owned companies

So if I wanted to open a business in socialism, how would that work?

You pay people what they're worth

How would I get the money to start a business?

The value they create

Grassroots funding

One of the big flaws of capitalism is that for some reason ppl think we need the gross excess of consumer products to function.

Herein lies the communism comparisons. The businesses, because of their "too big to fail" policy that they have bought through the government has become the downfall of capitalism. Now, companies like amazon, general motors, etc., are becoming state run, socialized businesses like from the ussr. We have become so worried about the defense of capitalism that we have turned it into communism.

If your idea isn't needed there's no capitalism to say it's special

That is why current american capitalism is closer to communism than feudalism

No investors to make you into a cash cow

There

Lol

In capitalism i get a loan from a bank, I pay for a franchise, then I pay the bank back with profits until I cover my starting cost

Theres your answer

Yeah and you can do the same with the people instead of the bankers

@BottlenekDolfin or create your own

No ownership needed

A people owned bank?

The people themselves

No middle man

Banking also isnt capitalist

Lol

@PugSlugger how are crony monopolies close to stateless, classles and moneyless societies?

The ownership of capital and it's trade in exchange for ownership of labor is Capitalism.

Whatever else that's used under a system like that is trivial

@Deleted User wew ill write more paragraphs if you want lol

"not capitalism" doesn't matter when the system as a whole is based on the ownership of labor and exploitation of the working class

Basic marxism is just that it's in the business owners best interesr to treat his workers has poorly as he can

No one but the laboror owns the labor lol. Didnt you ever hear "is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?"

Also yeah American Capitalism is not in any form close to Communism.

Maybe MLM but you need to stop talking to tankies

@celeryman2020 ok just dont read what i wrote then lel

I read it

In American, socialism is only for people over 65 who vote republican

UUUGGHH the goalposts

Ok