Message from @PugSlugger
Discord ID: 466830881882112022
They could have done it without killing the clergy tbh
We are talking about economy I thought
Western propoganda is just that communsim/socialism is bad because soviet union was the enemy
Because as businesses get big, they have more money to throw around. Everyone needs money, even politicans. As the corporations band together, they buy out the government slowly gaining more protection against capitalism from naturally eating at their superiority. Normally, when a company gets too big, they dissolve to to market changes and pressure, see the auto industry. When these large industries were failing, they use governmental power to stop their fall.
@PugSlugger also Syrian Kurdistan
Rojava
So capitalism is natural because plutocracy? Trickle down economics?
I'm not sure I'm following how this makes capitalism 1) natural or 2) a good thing
Look up free market communism
Look up worker owned companies
So if I wanted to open a business in socialism, how would that work?
You pay people what they're worth
How would I get the money to start a business?
The value they create
Grassroots funding
One of the big flaws of capitalism is that for some reason ppl think we need the gross excess of consumer products to function.
Herein lies the communism comparisons. The businesses, because of their "too big to fail" policy that they have bought through the government has become the downfall of capitalism. Now, companies like amazon, general motors, etc., are becoming state run, socialized businesses like from the ussr. We have become so worried about the defense of capitalism that we have turned it into communism.
If your idea isn't needed there's no capitalism to say it's special
That is why current american capitalism is closer to communism than feudalism
No investors to make you into a cash cow
Lol
In capitalism i get a loan from a bank, I pay for a franchise, then I pay the bank back with profits until I cover my starting cost
Theres your answer
Yeah and you can do the same with the people instead of the bankers
@BottlenekDolfin or create your own
No ownership needed
A people owned bank?
The people themselves
No middle man
Banking also isnt capitalist
Lol
@PugSlugger how are crony monopolies close to stateless, classles and moneyless societies?
The ownership of capital and it's trade in exchange for ownership of labor is Capitalism.
Whatever else that's used under a system like that is trivial
@Deleted User wew ill write more paragraphs if you want lol
"not capitalism" doesn't matter when the system as a whole is based on the ownership of labor and exploitation of the working class
Basic marxism is just that it's in the business owners best interesr to treat his workers has poorly as he can
No one but the laboror owns the labor lol. Didnt you ever hear "is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?"
Also yeah American Capitalism is not in any form close to Communism.
Maybe MLM but you need to stop talking to tankies