Message from @BottlenekDolfin

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2018-07-12 04:49:57 UTC  

There are thematic similarities but its really apples and oranges

2018-07-12 04:50:21 UTC  

@Deleted User my dude free catalonia was anarchy and a murder pit

2018-07-12 04:50:36 UTC  

They tortured priests to death to prevent dissent

2018-07-12 04:51:11 UTC  

You could say capitalism devolves into communism

2018-07-12 04:51:21 UTC  

Not feudalism

2018-07-12 04:51:44 UTC  

How??

2018-07-12 04:51:48 UTC  

Would you like to know how?

2018-07-12 04:51:54 UTC  

Lol im glad you asked

2018-07-12 04:52:20 UTC  

Capitalism is from England

2018-07-12 04:52:40 UTC  

@PugSlugger yet anarcho-syndicalism was established and the production went up.

2018-07-12 04:53:02 UTC  

They could have done it without killing the clergy tbh

2018-07-12 04:53:17 UTC  

We are talking about economy I thought

2018-07-12 04:53:34 UTC  

Western propoganda is just that communsim/socialism is bad because soviet union was the enemy

2018-07-12 04:55:32 UTC  

Because as businesses get big, they have more money to throw around. Everyone needs money, even politicans. As the corporations band together, they buy out the government slowly gaining more protection against capitalism from naturally eating at their superiority. Normally, when a company gets too big, they dissolve to to market changes and pressure, see the auto industry. When these large industries were failing, they use governmental power to stop their fall.

2018-07-12 04:56:38 UTC  

@PugSlugger also Syrian Kurdistan

2018-07-12 04:56:45 UTC  

Rojava

2018-07-12 04:56:49 UTC  

So capitalism is natural because plutocracy? Trickle down economics?

2018-07-12 04:57:12 UTC  

I'm not sure I'm following how this makes capitalism 1) natural or 2) a good thing

2018-07-12 04:57:25 UTC  

Look up free market communism

2018-07-12 04:57:37 UTC  

Look up worker owned companies

2018-07-12 04:57:40 UTC  

So if I wanted to open a business in socialism, how would that work?

2018-07-12 04:57:50 UTC  

You pay people what they're worth

2018-07-12 04:57:58 UTC  

How would I get the money to start a business?

2018-07-12 04:58:00 UTC  

The value they create

2018-07-12 04:58:08 UTC  

Grassroots funding

2018-07-12 04:58:39 UTC  

One of the big flaws of capitalism is that for some reason ppl think we need the gross excess of consumer products to function.

2018-07-12 04:58:39 UTC  

Herein lies the communism comparisons. The businesses, because of their "too big to fail" policy that they have bought through the government has become the downfall of capitalism. Now, companies like amazon, general motors, etc., are becoming state run, socialized businesses like from the ussr. We have become so worried about the defense of capitalism that we have turned it into communism.

2018-07-12 04:58:56 UTC  

If your idea isn't needed there's no capitalism to say it's special

2018-07-12 04:58:59 UTC  

That is why current american capitalism is closer to communism than feudalism

2018-07-12 04:59:05 UTC  

No investors to make you into a cash cow

2018-07-12 04:59:15 UTC  

There

2018-07-12 04:59:17 UTC  

Lol

2018-07-12 04:59:20 UTC  

In capitalism i get a loan from a bank, I pay for a franchise, then I pay the bank back with profits until I cover my starting cost

2018-07-12 04:59:26 UTC  

Theres your answer

2018-07-12 04:59:43 UTC  

Yeah and you can do the same with the people instead of the bankers

2018-07-12 04:59:48 UTC  

@BottlenekDolfin or create your own

2018-07-12 04:59:51 UTC  

No ownership needed

2018-07-12 04:59:57 UTC  

A people owned bank?

2018-07-12 05:00:03 UTC  

The people themselves

2018-07-12 05:00:06 UTC  

No middle man

2018-07-12 05:00:07 UTC  

Banking also isnt capitalist