Message from @BottlenekDolfin
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If your idea isn't needed there's no capitalism to say it's special
That is why current american capitalism is closer to communism than feudalism
No investors to make you into a cash cow
There
Lol
In capitalism i get a loan from a bank, I pay for a franchise, then I pay the bank back with profits until I cover my starting cost
Theres your answer
Yeah and you can do the same with the people instead of the bankers
@BottlenekDolfin or create your own
No ownership needed
A people owned bank?
The people themselves
No middle man
Banking also isnt capitalist
Lol
@PugSlugger how are crony monopolies close to stateless, classles and moneyless societies?
The ownership of capital and it's trade in exchange for ownership of labor is Capitalism.
Whatever else that's used under a system like that is trivial
@Deleted User wew ill write more paragraphs if you want lol
"not capitalism" doesn't matter when the system as a whole is based on the ownership of labor and exploitation of the working class
Basic marxism is just that it's in the business owners best interesr to treat his workers has poorly as he can
No one but the laboror owns the labor lol. Didnt you ever hear "is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?"
Also yeah American Capitalism is not in any form close to Communism.
Maybe MLM but you need to stop talking to tankies
@celeryman2020 ok just dont read what i wrote then lel
I read it
In American, socialism is only for people over 65 who vote republican
UUUGGHH the goalposts
Ok
I understand what marx calls communism
If you vote democrat you are unlikely to love to 65
@PugSlugger man, just a check of where we at. 1) You do not equate command economy to communism, right? 2) You support free, unregulated market, right?
Live*
Stateless money less blah blah
Also @PugSlugger not true whatsoever. That's not even capitalist propaganda
Just a lie
But in practice its much different
It's in the republicans best interest to oppress democrats
Wage slavery is real.
Capitalists won't even deny it.
It is only real because of socialism ironically lel