Message from @Geamr

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2018-07-29 13:55:11 UTC  

something that is really concerning to me actually

2018-07-29 13:55:19 UTC  

Yeah definitely

2018-07-29 13:56:33 UTC  

but then you're basically saying that all that your libertarian state would have to rely on principle alone to avoid that kind of stuff?

2018-07-29 13:56:52 UTC  

i mean the world surrounding you will eventually force your hand in that regard in my opinion

2018-07-29 13:57:46 UTC  

When I say I’m a libertarian I mean that in a broad sense

2018-07-29 13:58:07 UTC  

I’d more consider myself in line with libertarian conservative

2018-07-29 13:58:40 UTC  

yeah i understand that but just going from the basics of small government but all the neccessary bells and whistles of modern global capitalism, with an ideological commitment to personal rights and stuff, is that about accurate?

2018-07-29 13:59:09 UTC  

Well what exactly do you mean when you say rely on principle

2018-07-29 13:59:49 UTC  

i mean libertarianism places a deep focus on individual rights, more so than traditional conservaties, so i assumed that's where you split with them?

2018-07-29 13:59:51 UTC  

And also yeah thats about accurate

2018-07-29 14:00:07 UTC  

Yeah seems accurate

2018-07-29 14:00:27 UTC  

I do tend to disagree with traditional conservatives somewhat

2018-07-29 14:01:01 UTC  

lol anyone in their right mind should

2018-07-29 14:01:07 UTC  

But I’d say libertarian economically and social issues is a mixed bag

2018-07-29 14:01:59 UTC  

Although on most social issues I really don’t think it’s up to the state to enforce that

2018-07-29 14:02:10 UTC  

i'd say libertarian economics are like lighting the fuse of the bomb we're all sitting on called capitalism

2018-07-29 14:02:49 UTC  

Yeah I get that that’s generally the consensus of socialists

2018-07-29 14:03:09 UTC  

The next step after capitalism inevitably collapses

2018-07-29 14:03:19 UTC  

Which hey it might happen

2018-07-29 14:03:48 UTC  

I don’t see it happening though and if it does happen it will be because of state overreach and intervention

2018-07-29 14:04:21 UTC  

State intervention has always been the most powerful tool in preserving the capitalist status quo

2018-07-29 14:04:26 UTC  

I’m not one to denounce socialists because marxists for example actually have some good arguments

2018-07-29 14:05:16 UTC  

Generally speaking less intervention in the economy works better but what you say is true

2018-07-29 14:05:51 UTC  

Politicians have been putting regulation after regulation as bandages for the damages caused by former regulations

2018-07-29 14:06:00 UTC  

It’s politics

2018-07-29 14:06:14 UTC  

I'd dispute that highly, it seems that the nations with a larger and well balance state control of important economic and social issues seem to be doing the best under globalism so far

2018-07-29 14:06:43 UTC  

While the land of deregulation USA is heating up to a point of crisis

2018-07-29 14:07:12 UTC  

Corporations have amassed so much power there

2018-07-29 14:07:28 UTC  

and it's creating huge social issues

2018-07-29 14:07:53 UTC  

and economic ones, when the next crash inevitably happens

2018-07-29 14:08:36 UTC  

There is another big bubble looming over the usa and it’s going to burst this is true

2018-07-29 14:08:56 UTC  

But it’s not due to deregulation at all

2018-07-29 14:09:17 UTC  

What is the reason for it in your opinion?

2018-07-29 14:09:36 UTC  

State capitalism is a disease

2018-07-29 14:09:36 UTC  

Well the last one was of course the housing crisis of 2007

2018-07-29 14:09:48 UTC  

Which was caused by... not enough regulation

2018-07-29 14:10:00 UTC  

Money is a spook

2018-07-29 14:10:00 UTC  

and predatory companies exploiting millions of people

2018-07-29 14:10:32 UTC  

It was mainly caused by the federal reserve raising interest rates at a time when the economy was not prepared for it

2018-07-29 14:10:38 UTC  

But Trump undid all the regulations Obama put in place after, i mean surely they have learned their lesson now ))

2018-07-29 14:10:40 UTC  

And it raised them and raised them