Message from @Geamr
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The more pressing question is why we allow capitalism to flourish
Abolish the State
Anarcho capitalism
The government has no choice but to bail out the banks
Abolish Capitalism
if the banks fail you get a depression, and a depression always means socialism will rise
Anarcho capitalism is a fuckin joke
True because capitalism always creates its own enemies
wouldn't want another new deal forced on our poor government and the corporations that sponsor it
or even worse, an actual successful revolution instead of appeasement and continuation of the cycle
Abolish all state apparatuses and work towards the international federative commune system
Well look you’re making some good points but I gtg
allright it was nice talking to you
Same
Cyall
reform or revolution, you ask?
i believe rosa luxembourg answered that question quite well
States do not naturally dissolve because they are self-perpetuating
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If anything this is the biggest lesson of the USSR and China
it's hard to get right apparently
No it won't, it will create a red bureaucracy that becomes the new capitalist class, it could be even worse with the introduction of state capitalism like the USSR and China did. Bakunin foresaw this told Marx and warned about it in his writing and despite all of that it still happened. States are oppressive and the working class cannot be free under one.
Federative, grass roots, direct democratic structures
So we democratize your workplace and then your workplace becomes a political organ for the new commune
you need a large international bureaucratic apparatus to deal with global issues though
perhaps even on a national scale
Not bureaucratic filled with career politicians, but delegates sent and elected from the working class themselves
they would be directly recallbale
Exactly why revolution
And when setting up a new system
You need specialists and state servants that are dedicate tho, you can't run a large apparatus like that without qualified officials
You do not want a large apparatus
the issue of corruption must be tackled effectively through control and transparency
No
yeah you don't want it but you NEED it
How do you need it?
how can your thousands of little councils deal with something like global warming?
something that requires global coordination and action?
or disasters of massive scales
They elect members from those councils to go to a regional council and the regional council elects someone to go to a national council and then they elect someone to go to international councils