Message from @nagarjuna

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2018-09-12 14:58:31 UTC  

Or how does one cultivate this new generation?

2018-09-12 14:58:37 UTC  

Any specific intervention?

2018-09-12 14:59:15 UTC  

One interesting thing is his analysis of terrorism like 9/11, he points out that more than just killing us they want to humiliate us

2018-09-12 14:59:38 UTC  

who is they

2018-09-12 15:00:07 UTC  

so this is like a social relation, not just an extermination idea. so I think it's about cultivating a mentality in people where they want to engage with the larger society and not just murder people or just accumulate

2018-09-12 15:00:15 UTC  

terrorists, like al qaeda and stuff

2018-09-12 15:00:29 UTC  

they didn't just want to kill people, they wanted to inflict a "symbolic wound"

2018-09-12 15:00:52 UTC  

in the gift economy, the challenge is always to find a better gift to give back

2018-09-12 15:00:53 UTC  

That's the presumption the Western Liberal media would like us to believe, but okay

2018-09-12 15:01:14 UTC  

oh ok you're referring to inside job theories?

2018-09-12 15:01:18 UTC  

I'd say the terrorists were moreso acting out of raw opportunism

2018-09-12 15:01:21 UTC  

oh ok

2018-09-12 15:01:40 UTC  

I don't see Islam being the primary driving factor

2018-09-12 15:01:45 UTC  

I agree

2018-09-12 15:01:46 UTC  

I see it as a smaller one

2018-09-12 15:02:01 UTC  

Baudrilalrd points out that if islam here hegemonic there would be terrorism against islam

2018-09-12 15:02:23 UTC  

global power is like a gift, you can get a gift you don't want, because "the given" is the world it has made

2018-09-12 15:02:24 UTC  

Hegemonic in regards to what?

2018-09-12 15:02:33 UTC  

Hegemonic globally?

2018-09-12 15:02:37 UTC  

in marxist terms the spread of the commodity system

2018-09-12 15:02:46 UTC  

as the outcome of Western imperialism

2018-09-12 15:02:59 UTC  

Well, certain Islamic countries do practice Imperialism

2018-09-12 15:03:00 UTC  

Islam would have suffer terribly a huge amount of revolts.

2018-09-12 15:03:06 UTC  

Saudi Arabia being a prime example

2018-09-12 15:03:24 UTC  

Not just terrorism. Their culture is practically quite contrary to the used lives of people under secular/reformed Christianity.

2018-09-12 15:03:25 UTC  

so has this system lmao but if muslims invented the maxim gun first it would not have hattered

2018-09-12 15:03:29 UTC  

mattered*

2018-09-12 15:03:42 UTC  

Our culture is different too. We had guns fam

2018-09-12 15:03:52 UTC  

I'm not sure what you're trying to imply

2018-09-12 15:04:04 UTC  

You stated that if Islam was hegemonic, terrorism would occur against it

2018-09-12 15:04:17 UTC  

global hegemony is like batman. when batman shows up, the villains all come out to challenge him

2018-09-12 15:04:22 UTC  

I believe he hypothetical placed that if Islam was majority of the world's belief

2018-09-12 15:04:28 UTC  

There would be terrorism against it.

2018-09-12 15:04:31 UTC  

Ok

2018-09-12 15:04:31 UTC  

when something dominates the world system, then resistance seeps from all sectors

2018-09-12 15:04:41 UTC  

yes yes hypothetical

2018-09-12 15:04:45 UTC  

It would be natural to have such anti-thesis because it still has conflicting elements left unresolved.

2018-09-12 15:04:46 UTC  

Does this not occur on a smaller scale

2018-09-12 15:04:48 UTC  

Dialectically.

2018-09-12 15:05:02 UTC  

It does but suppose the world becomes subjugated under Islam.

2018-09-12 15:05:07 UTC  

No