Message from @PugSlugger

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2018-12-30 04:55:50 UTC  

and here comes the "socialism is when the government does things"

2018-12-30 04:55:52 UTC  

>gold oil drugs
>worth trillions

2018-12-30 04:55:55 UTC  

😩

@PugSlugger more like big business under the heel of the people's vanguard a.k.a. the Party.

2018-12-30 04:56:24 UTC  

(in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.

2018-12-30 04:56:27 UTC  

When the US is the largest purchaser of peruvian cocaine

2018-12-30 04:56:31 UTC  

🤔

2018-12-30 04:56:49 UTC  

Socialism is an authoritarian state that manages all means of production

@Deleted User and that funds the Shining Path.... which the CIA doea so by buying their coke.

2018-12-30 04:57:04 UTC  

It is supposed to transition into communism

2018-12-30 04:57:04 UTC  

when the USA complains about the latin american drug cartels causing crime while also being the largest customer of the drug cartels

2018-12-30 04:57:23 UTC  

"Socialism is when the government does things. The more it does, the more socialister it is." -Karl Marx

2018-12-30 04:57:48 UTC  

Why are you strawmanning with that tired meme?

2018-12-30 04:57:57 UTC  

Npc level shit

2018-12-30 04:58:06 UTC  

Because "Socialism is an authoritarian state that manages all means of production"

2018-12-30 04:58:09 UTC  

apparently

2018-12-30 04:58:16 UTC  

It literally is

2018-12-30 04:58:21 UTC  

Yeah that has me confused

2018-12-30 04:58:31 UTC  

What is a dictatorship of the proletariat motherfucker

2018-12-30 04:58:42 UTC  

Worker owned production = authoritarian state?

DR Congo has the biggest deposits of uranium but still kept under the heel of the Western Oligarchs.

2018-12-30 04:58:55 UTC  

A dictatorship of the proloteriat is when workers control the production

@a2 through a vanguard organization.

2018-12-30 04:59:38 UTC  

Yeah this sounds like bolshevism and not socialism

That is the purpose of the Communist Party. They run the State for the workers.

2018-12-30 05:00:21 UTC  

Nigger tell me how the best way for the workers to run the means of production isnt an authoritarian state?

2018-12-30 05:00:23 UTC  

@Deleted User he asked what dictatorship of the proloteriat is

But the vanguard does not nescessarily be a Communist Party. It can be an umbrella organization of people banding up for a common cause.

2018-12-30 05:00:40 UTC  

Because lenin and mao agree with my definition

2018-12-30 05:00:42 UTC  

@PugSlugger no tell me how it is

2018-12-30 05:01:25 UTC  

Because if you have tens of millions of workers youre gonna make a beuracracy to make it all function as a state

Like, US veterans standing up against MIC militarism, and workers asking for more humane standards. They can team up into a vanguard.

The vanguard provides the voice and bureaucracy of such.

And I'm saying that as a SocNat.

Even Singapore is a good example of a "dictatorship of the vanguard", except there is a check and balance.

2018-12-30 05:04:28 UTC  

Looking at the wiki for socialism you fuckers cant figure out what it actually is

In this case, the PAP is the vanguard, but the check and balance here is the perpetual threat of being voted out if they do not do their job properly.

2018-12-30 05:47:36 UTC  

Pug is crying about something again?

2018-12-30 05:56:53 UTC  

Of course he is