look at the demographic make up of america before 1965

That's a short amount of time as far as nations go

the hard seller act of 1965 radically changed the immigration laws and consequentially the make up of our country. whereas before the immigration from ireland and italy was quite different then the immigration from mexico today

they integrated far far easier and we took in amount that we could handle

strategically

after rampant ethnic friction with the Irish went away

yea and that happened a lot easier due to the amnt we took in being controlled

though that was a mix of ethnic and religious confrontation, with with protestant vs catholic and whatnot

now its like 2 million+ immigrants a year

but then Irish started fighting irish, fucks sake

or wait.... no I'm thinking a bit further back

.... no, more than a hundred years further back

whereas in the past it was yk... like in the thousands really... in controlled waves. and from countries where there culture is different. but still european

I'm not saying "lets go open borders". We need immigration reform. I also believe immigrants need to assimilate much better. I'm simply pointing out that we're a country of immigrants white or otherwise. And that I support people's desire to better their lives. That's exactly what white people did coming to America. The only difference was we killed off the people already here

and the asian immigrants we took in was also very controlled

i mean we arent a nation of immigrants

I think that really had less to do with government control of immigration and the fact all people had to travel were big fuckin boats and not many people could afford to all at once

we're a nation of americans. founded in anglo-saxxan protestant ideals.

you could say we were immigrants in say... the 1600s.. sure fine. whatever.

but today we are not a nation of immigrants

If you look at it in terms of the span of history. White people migrated to the Americas 200-300 years ago. There were none here before then. As far as history is concerned we're far more immigrants than mexicans are

TFW a republican president gets impeached because a democrat politician did shady things.

...wait a sec

@Troye nope

i strongly disagree with that

well apparently Bush fucking up the economy was Obama's fault, so, really that's nothing new

as our ancestors fought and died for this land

to claim it

Yes, we killed off tge native population

you cant just wipe that away and say oh well the mexicans were here first yada yada. we are more immigrants then they are. lol no. we won the wars, we took texas. and we're keeping it

yeah, by that logic literally none of the current existing borders in europe are legitimate

Are they tho?

oh don't fucking start, this is confusing enough already

and we didnt kill them off or genocide them, it was a battle. 30% of settlers died and 50% of the natives died

Look I'm not a fan of crying over what happened in the past and I completely realize this has little bearing on current policy. I simply believe its worth realizing that we're all human and all basically the same people. At birth at least

it was a big conflict

thats fine troye

but you will have to make the decision on whether you like america the way it is

or if you're fine with it changing due to mass immigration

that's a shitty false dichotomy

its really not

I'm pissed off enough with the change we're getting just from Cali transplants, let alone immigration