Their narratives aren't the same if you look at them

The elites don't want to be Russia. They want to be their own version of god

The only real similarities are the authoritarian tendencies, the socialist propaganda concealing totalitarianism, and the use of censorship and propaganda

https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/eye-on-government/ny-man-arrested-for-cutting-wires-to-red-light-cameras-exposing-revenue-scheme-TmvQ7-MX9U-VXG26D11tdg

https://pics.ballmemes.com/hungwy-dykecrimes-whatistheplan-deactivated201712-new-york-man-arrested-for-cutting-wires-37943263.png

That's pretty funny, he deserves an award

WOW

is it sad that if that is real none of it surprises me?

its real thats the news report above it

and none of it surprises me.

the cities should not be able to collect the fines for breaking the 'laws' they set.

the idea i have is give the money to charities chosen by the person paying the fine.

Then it's not really a fine.

well there is a problem when people call fines "fund raseing"

and a conflict of interest when the people makeing the rules get the money form the fines set by those rules.

You can donate to a charity yourself ... actual punishment would be if the fine from a faggot went to the church, and a fine from a pastor went to planned parenthood

I would have a list set up for charities you could pay the fine to, would be food banks and such.

But yes, I agree that it presents conflict of inteest

It is a conflict of interests and there are too many laws. However, there have to be laws and consequences. Otherwise we'd just live in complete anarchy. Which is not a good thing

by the sound of that story they made the lights with the cams more dangerous just to make more money, and they put said cams in places where they knew the people wouldn't fight as hard.

There has to be a balance

I agree there should be laws, I don't think giveing out several hundred dollar fines for going a bit fast or being in the wrong lane is right, even more so when that fine goes to the police/city.

I would also like there to be an option for jail time insted of the fines, again trying to remove the conflict of interest form the police/city.

speeding would be just a few hours, you go and 'serve' the time in an empty room with nothing but yourself and your thoughts.

and I REALLY would like police to shape up and be the best drivers out there, as it stands I have seen they seem to be the worst.

MA cops are really bad, i have been cut off by them and seen them speeding in rush hour traffic, no lights either time.

I agree that fines for traffic violations are really just an unjust revenue stream and little else

once in my own state one was passing comeing towards me and didn't seem to care how close we came to hitting eachother, I know i had no intention of slowing down for him.

I have also seen police parked in VERY unsafe places for their traps.

seen them playing with their computers or on their phones while driveing also.

There is currently an option to serve jail time instead of the fine

what not pay?

You just refuse to pay and they'll put you in jail

Lol

they will put you in jail and then demand the fine and add another fine for not paying the first.

Yes, something along those lines

they don't want you to take that option though and you know it.

if you demanded that form a judge he would come down hard on you and the police and jail would make sure you NEVER took that option ever again.

these people have no accountabilty to me and I don't know that they have any to anyone other then the city they work for.

if that.

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I want to like and trust the police, but with crap like that story posted up there, how am i able to do that?