Message from @Troye

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2019-12-27 00:26:22 UTC  

they will put you in jail and then demand the fine and add another fine for not paying the first.

2019-12-27 00:26:41 UTC  

Yes, something along those lines

2019-12-27 00:26:53 UTC  

they don't want you to take that option though and you know it.

2019-12-27 00:27:21 UTC  

if you demanded that form a judge he would come down hard on you and the police and jail would make sure you NEVER took that option ever again.

2019-12-27 00:27:53 UTC  

these people have no accountabilty to me and I don't know that they have any to anyone other then the city they work for.

2019-12-27 00:27:57 UTC  

if that.

2019-12-27 00:28:18 UTC  

...
I want to like and trust the police, but with crap like that story posted up there, how am i able to do that?

2019-12-27 00:28:39 UTC  

and that's not the worst of it, I have seen speed traps all over the places, heard that story time and time again.

2019-12-27 00:31:57 UTC  

Depends on the judge

2019-12-27 00:32:15 UTC  

Some would be fine with it, some wouldn't

2019-12-27 00:32:59 UTC  

I have no reason to assume I would get a "good" judge, I must assume they will act in the interest of the state/city as they are agents of the state/city

2019-12-27 00:33:01 UTC  

And yeah, there are unfortunately a good number of bad cops out there

2019-12-27 00:33:12 UTC  

There are good cops as well

2019-12-27 00:33:27 UTC  

they don't even have to be "bad" cops to be part of this problem.

2019-12-27 00:33:33 UTC  

Ehh

2019-12-27 00:33:39 UTC  

they can just be "normal" cops and be part of this problem.

2019-12-27 00:33:46 UTC  

Yesish

2019-12-27 00:33:53 UTC  

they might not even have a real choice if they are "good" cops.

2019-12-27 00:34:17 UTC  

it's a problem with the rule makers and the rules themselfs, and the cops enforce those rules, good or bad.

2019-12-27 00:34:17 UTC  

Depends on what you consider a good cop to be

2019-12-27 00:34:57 UTC  

But yes, I'd say what you're describing could easily be considered the average for police

2019-12-27 00:35:44 UTC  

if an officer was doing what i considered 'good' in this case I don't think he would have a job, i think the city would throw him out.

2019-12-27 00:35:56 UTC  

because he isn't makeing them enough money or some such.

2019-12-27 00:36:09 UTC  

Most likely

2019-12-27 00:36:27 UTC  

They might not need to find out though

2019-12-27 00:37:10 UTC  

something needs to be done to stop law enforcement form being a income source, until that happens I'm gonna have a very hard time trusting them.

2019-12-27 00:40:36 UTC  

anyhow, i'm gonna head off, good night.

2019-12-27 01:56:22 UTC  

what? why shouldn't law enforcement earn wages?

2019-12-27 01:56:36 UTC  

that's rediculous

2019-12-27 02:00:05 UTC  

Not what he meant

2019-12-27 02:01:06 UTC  

What he meant to say is law enforcement getting an income from giving out tickets and enforcing pointless laws is a conflict of interest and doesn't help people

2019-12-27 02:03:44 UTC  

Police officers are not paid based on ticket quota. That would be considered a bounty and is strictly illegal.

2019-12-27 02:29:09 UTC  

They do get trickle down bonuses, when the department issues allot of tickets they get a budget increase, which they spend on toys. It's more like those corporate "job duties" that aren't in the contract but shit bosses will make your life hell for for not doing

2019-12-27 02:31:59 UTC  

Basically it's an administration issue, and usually doesn't have much to do with the cop writing the tickets, and realising that they probably hate this part of the job.

2019-12-27 02:36:35 UTC  

Lol @ thinking cops aren't incentivized to write tickets. It doesn't have to be a bonus if their job is dependent on a certain quota.

2019-12-27 04:03:55 UTC  

Trump Signs Bill Restoring Funding for Black Colleges - RealClearPolitics

https://apple.news/AqjUYuUflSlm0VeyuV-oSWA

2019-12-27 04:04:48 UTC  

But he’s racist though<:thunk:462282216467333140>

2019-12-27 04:19:16 UTC  

Can anyone actually show evidence of him being racist?

2019-12-27 04:19:31 UTC  

Genuinely want to see if there is any

2019-12-27 04:27:03 UTC  

No not really

2019-12-27 04:39:27 UTC  

This is just a thought exercise -I personally don’t believe it will happen- if the boogaloo kicks off, how do you think the factions would form?

For example, I talk with a lot of people who probably would accept the alt right title or atleast groyper, and some that are unabashed natsoc etc. they seem to think I’d be on their side. This baffles me, they are just as bad as the far left, and I’d.... neutralize... people from either “faction” if they get the civil war they want.

I’m not even a statist, but I’d rather keep the status quo than allow those authoritarians to run around imposing their will on people

I’d imagine you would maybe three or so main lines of though: the far left authoritarians, the “far right” authoritarians, then a *coalition* of status quo statists with more libertarian minded people, who don’t want to illegally violate people’s property rights. With in these lines of though you would have separate sub groups who’s goals and means differ obviously.

I don’t know though, any thoughts? I just have this nebulous hard to quantify feeling about the boogaloo And I’m hopping by talking about it i can... rationalize... maybe realize is a better word... my thoughts and emotions on the matter